Re: [orca-list] planning to revisit twitter, any tips?

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

Maybe OT for this list, but Corebird has some accessibility issues I'd 
like to see fixed. Pointers on how to do so? In particular:


 * I don't often know from whom a tweet originates, particularly if it 
is a) a reply b) a retweet. Where the author's name is spoken seems 
somewhat inconsistent.

 * Some buttons are unlabeled. I opened up the XML containing the UI 
definition, and all buttons seem to have what appears to be a text 
label. But I sometimes don't hear a label read and sometimes do.

 * Retweets with comments are confusing. Often, they have what appears 
to be a link to the original tweet. Clicking that opens the tweet in 
Corebird. I often see this if someone retweets a link, because I can't 
find the link that Orca reads as part of the tweet unless I click back 
to the original.

 * Clicking tweets apparently shows their conversation, if any. I can't 
navigate this conversation at all.


So yeah, Corebird works somewhat, but I'd hardly call it accessible. 
Sure, it works in the sense that I can read tweets, but I feel like I 
miss out on quite a bit more than I did with, say, Chicken Nugget and 
other accessible Windows clients.


What really confuses me is that I can't pin down how to consistently 
reproduce these behaviors. I mean, Corebird will sometimes read the same 
tweet in different ways, sometimes putting the author's name first and 
sometimes not. I don't know if something is happening visually when I 
arrow over the tweet. Maybe, if several tweets have the same author, the 
author name gets omitted on subsequent tweets? I just don't know. I've 
poked the source a bit, but I don't know Vala, and maybe the UI builder 
tool got more accessible since I tried 5-6 years ago, but hand-editing 
the XML is also painful. :)


Would be interesting to try fixing these, and to learn to do so myself. 
I'd probably use a web client more, but I do like the deeper desktop 
integrations offered by native clients. Maybe it's time for a super 
accessible HTML-based social media client that uses Firefox's new push 
notifications support.



On 09/14/2016 08:15 AM, Krishnakant wrote:
> I used corebird and it is almost perfectly accessible.
>
> I can twit  and read timeline perfect, retweet is also easy same for 
> replying tweet.
>
> Happy hacking.
>
> Krishnakant.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 14 September 2016 02:33 PM, Peter Vágner wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > The main corebird window has a group of radio buttons you can use to 
> > switch time lines, the time line content it self and a sidebar.
> >
> > When browsing tweets, you can use up and down arrow keys to navigate 
> > over tweets. You can press the enter key on a tweet to expand the 
> > tweet. If the tweet is a part of a conversation, then in-reply-to 
> > tweets and replies will be also shown. There are also buttons reply, 
> > retweet and favourite here.
> >
> > These reply, retweet and favorite buttons are also shown in the 
> > timeline however it is not possible to activate them via keyboard at 
> > that place. However, there are some built-in keyboard shortcuts you 
> > can use in the timeline explained in the readme file.
> >
> > r reply
> >
> > t two times in a quick succession - retweet
> >
> > d two times in a quick succession - delete
> >
> > f - favorite
> >
> > ctrl+t - compose tweet
> >
> > These keys I have just mentioned are only working in the timeline 
> > view when a tweet has been selected.
> >
> > There are some more shortcuts for example opening the settings, , 
> > toggling the sidebar, opening application settings, showing list of 
> > accounts. See the readme please.
> >
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14.09.2016 at 10:19 Chris Norman wrote:
> > > I'm glad someone else is using Corebird... I've honestly tried it a 
> > > lot, and things like replies and stuff just confuse me... How on 
> > > earth does one reply, reply to all, dm or retweet a tweet?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > On 14/09/2016 09:15, Peter Vágner wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are targetting open-source apps then I do recommend corebird 
> > > > https://github.com/baedert/corebird on the desktop, it's a modern 
> > > > gnome 3 styled GTK+ 3 based app which is mostly accessible. I'm 
> > > > using it dayly.
> > > >
> > > > For mobile access I think Twidere 
> > > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mariotaku.twidere 
> > > > is the excelent choice for android and Tweetings is excelent choice 
> > > > for IOS. There is also Twidere for IOS in active development 
> > > > https://github.com/TwidereProject/Twidere-iOS/
> > > >
> > > > Twitter mobile apps are also accessible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 14.09.2016 at 09:34 Krishnakant wrote:
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I had used twitter more than few months back and I did not quite 
> > > > > find it accessible.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish to know which GUI client I can right away use for tweeting 
> > > > > and reading replies to my tweets and also some additional stuff?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, is there accessible version of m.twitter.com or some 
> > > > > similar mobile addition?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am campaigning for exclusive use of free software in the 
> > > > > government run schools for the blind and also rural schools in India.
> > > > >
> > > > > The media has tarted to cover my campaign and I now would need 
> > > > > twitter for publicity.
> > > > >
> > > > > So kindly share your experience with twitter.
> > > > >
> > > > > happy hacking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Krishnakant.
> > > > >
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