Re: [orca-list] Some shortcut key to turn off monitor



Help me understand the rationale behind this one.  Why not just reach over and push the off button on the 
monitor to turn it off?  Are we talking laptops here?  And, if so, why turn the monitor off at all?  Battery 
saver or something?  Just curious.  If I don't want someone seeing what I'm typing over my shoulder, I will 
half close my screen or something like that.  I can't imagine doing something to monkey with the monitor on 
the laptop in case something goes wrong and I can't turn it back on.  I share my machines with my sighted 
family so, that would be a real problem.  

Thanks.
Alex M


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From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of B. Henry
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 12:05 PM
To: Krishnakant; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Some shortcut key to turn off monitor

Oh, I got sidetracked and forgot to say that you can get the monitor toggle script as part of my 
fluxable-newmenu package available in the arch-linux aur.
It is available from github if you do not use arch.
git clone http://github.com/burt1iband/fluxable-newmenu

I need to check in to a couple of things as the branch for distros that don't fully use systemd, i.e. have no 
enabled systemctl shutdown or reboot commands did not seem to be available ladsat I checked, but even if it 
is not you can use everything else including the orca configuration item, gui shutdown, and applications 
menus on any machine that uses nautilus, pcmanfm, or caja as it's filemanager. 
The GUI desktop shutdown menu entry works with XFCE, ratpoison, fluxbox, Unity, mate, and gnome, and if I 
remember correctly LXDE.
It give one old school categorized applications menus similar to those found in mate or XFCE which can be 
helpful for those who use gnome or unity, and it gives one a way to get at orca prefferences even if they do 
not have an insert key to switch to laptop layout or enable the capslock for orcakey if they forget orca -s.
I'll try and get around to seeing what's going on with the non-systemd branch soon.
The branch for those using vinux, Ubuntu, etc is vnx. 
Master is what you want for Debian, Fedora, Arch and any distro that fully integrates systemd, and if you 
can't find the vnx branch will mostly work on any distro.

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  B. Henry wrote:
Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 11:48:09AM -0600

It may be machine specific, but it also may be due to the kernel and  or graphics stack you are using. 
My 6 year old dells machines can use the vbetool command on 
Vinux/Ubuntu, even running kernels as new as 4.4, but as of asome 
update around kernel 4.2 to 4.4, not sure exactly when, it sopped working on arch. Again, it could be 
related to the graphics support and some other updatethat happened along with one of those kernel updates.
There is a little script that comes with vinux called monitor toggle 
that can turn off your monitor, but you must be using a gui and have xrandr installed, but as this is the 
orca list we will assume that everyone has a Linux gui.
Actually I do not start my GUI all the time, so I do have a problem on 
my arch box. I can sometimes turn off the screen using some console 
config commands, but it will come back on in normal use, right away if one is not paying attention,m and 
pretty much inevitably pretty soon, so there is no across the board reliable CLI onlyh solution, although 
tvbe tool works for more users than not still.
  


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  Krishnakant wrote:
Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 05:28:57PM +0530

vbetool dpms off does not work on all machines.

Lenovo thinkpad t440 has this issue.

happy hacking.

Krishnakant.



On Tuesday 08 November 2016 02:53 PM, Raphaël POITEVIN wrote:
As root, vbetool:
# vbetool dpms off.

On 11/07/2016 10:02 PM, Peter Vágner wrote:
Hello,


There is no built-in mechanism to automagically handle this, 
however there are several ways on how you can accomplish this.

If you are using gnome 3 on a laptop, then you can decrease 
brightness from the top pannel. It does not completelly turn off 
the screen however I still believe it might be helpfull and / is most straightforward.


Then on the Debian Accessibility wiki page there is a section on 
switching the screen off:
https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Screen_off

There are various solutions described that might suit multiple 
users depending of their used environment of choice.

For graphical desktop I think the xrandr based script is a very 
good idea.

It can easily be turned into a sops plugin if you like.

See the sops project page at
https://github.com/chrys87/simple-orca-plugin-system


Greetings


Peter
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