Re: [orca-list] Ot: does anyone have a certification from the Linux foundation?

[John Heim <john johnheim net>]

Yes, many jobs at a high school, college, or university legally require 
you to have a degree. No matter how much they might have liked a 
candidate for my job, for example, they couldn't have hired him without 
a BS degree. Even in the private sector, not having a degree is a huge 
drawback at least in a place like Madison where even the guy that serves 
you coffee has a BS degree. If you were hiring, what would you think of 
someone who didn't finish high school? I am extremely sympathetic to 
that kind of thing. Believe me, I understand how life can run you down. 
But if I was running a company, I'd want people who had the discipline 
to at least finish high school. These days, that same kind of thinking 
applies to college.

Most ads say that the job requires a BS degree or equivalent experience. 
Of course, the problem would be getting the equivalent experience 
without the degree. I talked about how around here, jobs for linux 
systems admins go unfilled but those are not entry level positions. My 
department has jobs that require a BS degree and those that don't. The 
last time we had a job that required a degree, we got 5 applications. 
The last time we had a job that didn't require a degree, we got more 
than 30.


Personally, I don't know why anyone would not want to go to college. You 
don't have to go to Harvard. Just go to your state university. You will 
have tons of fun, learn a lot, and set yourself up for a great career.  
Well, major in something useful, like Comp Sci.


On 03/09/2016 12:04 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> Bummer.  So, you could have someone who is perfectly knowledgeable, perfectly competent but who won't get 
> hired because he or she doesn't have a BS degree.  Wow.  Maybe the lpi Certification might make the 
> difference for somebody like that then.
>
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> Well, I don't know anything about certifications but  I work as the linux admin for the Math Department at 
> the University Of Wisconsin.
> Managing the mail, print, database, and web servers isn't even that big a part of my job. I do all that but I 
> also manage the research cluster for the faculty. We have some machines with 32 to 40 cores that are tied 
> into everybody's office computer so they can use their office machine as a node on the cluster. It's all 
> linux. As you may know, almost all high performance computing is done on linux computers. Anyway, my point is 
> that I almost never have accessibility problems.  For a career for a blind person, I think linux systems 
> admin is about as level a playing surface as you are going to find.
> I am not sure what the demand is for linux systems admins in other parts of the world but around here it's 
> really high. Jobs go unfilled for years because of the lack of qualified candidates. This is a university 
> town and that is what accounts for the demand. The university creates it's share of jobs but many are also 
> created by businesses spun off of the university. All the jobs around here, even most of those in the private 
> sector, require a BS degree or better.
>
> On 03/08/2016 02:27 PM, austinAustin quesada wrote:
> > Hi. I figured i would ask this here, as i trust this community to give
> > me some honest answers. So, recently, i have been looking in to being
> > certifyed from the Linux foundation, for employment purposes. From
> > what i gather, there is quite a demand for Linux systems admins, and
> > the pay is quite good here in the US. I'm wondering though if this
> > type of job would be practical using speakup and or orca to manage a
> > stable server environment, assuming of course that i actually land the
> > job? Any thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Also feel
> > free to share experiences and the like. Thanks.
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