Re: [orca-list] autodetection of keyboard layouts?

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

Hmm, so if by default Orca comes up with a keybinding that uses Insert 
for all command keys, and I fire up Orca on a keyboard where I'm not 
likely to know where Insert is by virtue of not using it often or at 
all, then how does the distinction of Orca as app vs. Orca as desktop 
service serve me? It makes sense from the perspective of one wanting to 
maintain purity, but if Orca says "Press insert-k to change keyboard 
layouts" and I don't know where Insert is, wouldn't it have just made 
more sense to just pop up a dialog that let me select keyboard layouts 
from a standard UI control first, service vs. app not withstanding?

FWIW, I'm not sure where the Insert key is on the laptop I've owned for 
nearly 2 years. Fortunately I use it as my main workstation too, so have 
it hooked into a full-size wireless keyboard where I do know the 
location of the Insert key, but one of the first tasks I perform is 
switching to the laptop layout. I think I'd be massively confused if I 
didn't always perform setup on a full-size keyboard.

On 03/06/2016 04:26 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 03:39:10AM AEDT, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > NVDA handles this in a nice way IIRC. If you launch it without existing
> > preferences, you get a dialog box letting you set the most important
> > preferences, just enough so the remaining setup would be easier. Orca could
> > pop up a dialog on first run asking which keyboard layout you'd like,
> > perhaps with a bit of explanatory text about how desktop layouts use the
> > Insert key which might make accessing other preferences difficult on a
> > laptop.
> This goes against the concept of Orca being a desktop service, not an
> application. An alternative would be for Orca to announce the keyboard
> shortcut to switch to the other keyboard layout if there are no settings
> present.
>
> Luke
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