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Re: [orca-list] updates on Linux adventures

I thought Mate has become much more accessible off late and issues with Kaja have been resolved. 
Is that true?
I wish to put Mate on one of my production machines here.
I am about to start a new course for blind computer users and it is a job oriented finishing school kind of a course, so I wish to know if what I believe about Mate is true? The reason is that many of these blind users will get a machine with 2 or 4 gb ram and I wish that those machines don't give them slow performance. Mate is very fast and so I am thinking of considering it seriously, although I am myself using Unity on my 8 gb ram thinkpad. 
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.


On Monday 06 June 2016 09:55 AM, kendell clark wrote:

hi
Mate is as accessible as gnome is, but you had issues with gnome so I
thought I should improve gnome. What issues did you have again other
than the volume keys?
Thanks
Kendell Clark


Devin Prater wrote:

Just Gnome? Ah well, might as well get used to it, Mate might not be as accessible, ironically. After 
reassigning the all applications keystroke so that it worked, the use of things worked fine. If I can get 
Sonar working in a VM someday, I'd probably switch to that pretty quickly, as it'd be far more convient.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 5, 2016, at 9:41 PM, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:

hi
None taken at all. You've gotten a linux distro working, and that's the
whole point. In the meantime, I'll look at our gnome image  to see if I
can't improve things so this stuff just works in the future.
Thanks
Kendell Clark


Devin Prater wrote:

Thank you all. I managed to install Orca, found out about the
alt+super+S command, found that it does work on the login screen. Yes,
I think Fedora is what I’ll stick to, as I’ve gotten it to work way
better than any other Distro, no offense to the Vinux and Sonar
people, lol. Thanks for all y’all’s help.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
r d t prater gmail com <mailto:r d t prater gmail com>




On Jun 5, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Al Sten-Clanton
<albert e sten_clanton verizon net
<mailto:albert e sten_clanton verizon net>> wrote:

Hi, Kendell.  I knew some of this but not all, so thanks for that
info--even though I'm not the one with the original question on this
thread.

Al


On 06/05/2016 05:40 AM, coffeeking wrote:
hi

In sonar the volume is set to a non standard keyboard shortcut so that
if people use it on computers which don't have multimedia keys they can
still change the volume. It's bound to control+windiws+down to decrease,
control+windows+up arrow to increase, and control+windows+m to mute and
unmute. On every other distro I've ever used, your standard volume up,
down and mute keys on your keyboard will change the volume. If you don't
have such keys, you can easily change the shortcuts in the keyboard
settings in gnome, and the keyboard shortcut settings in mate. To get to
them in gnome, press the windows key and start typing keyboard. Press
enter on the "keyboard" item and they'll open. In mate, press alt+f1 to
open up the mate menu. Go down to system>preferences>hardware>keyboard
shortcuts. Press enter. Fedora uses gnome by default, and I'm assuming
you downloaded the "workstation" edition? If so, nick is right. Press
alt+windows+s to start orca. Fedora boots into a kind of welcome screen.
Once orca is running, tab over to "try fedora" and press enter. Press
enter on the "close" button and you'll be taken to the gnome desktop.
Gnome's desktop icons are turned off in fedora for some reason, so orca
won't say anything to let you know gnome is ready. Just press the
windows key and look for a program.

If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to email me or this list and
we'll be happy to help. That's what we're hear for.

Thanks

Kendell Clark




On 6/5/2016 3:39 AM, Nick Wood wrote:
Hi,

I've never had to unmute or alter the volume with Fedora - the
installer has always come up with the volume already set.
(Tested with Fedora 22 and 23)

Just hit Alt+Super+S and Orca should fire up.

Fedora has no startup sound (like the drums in Ubuntu) so if you have
no vision at all you won't know when the desktop has booted.

I tend to count to 3 minutes after booting the Fedora USB image before
doing the Alt+Super+S shortcut, but your own mileage may vary
depending on the speed of your hardware.
(I suspect its ready long before the 3 minutes - but that figure works
for me so that's what I've stuck with)

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Nick




On 04/06/16 17:47, Devin Prater wrote:
Hi all. Last night, I got Brltty working within talking arch. I
played around with it and learned to use it, mo'£y. Now that I have
my toe in the door, I'd like to learn the GUI desktops. My Debean
installation runs the Debean desktop environment. My main problem
right now is that most of the installers I've tried start with volume
muted, but with GUI, we don't have alsamixer, at least not a command
away. I tried Fedora, both 23 and 24 beta, and tried all function
keys, as I heard media keys can be used to raise the volume, but
nothing so far. I tried looking up, using differing terms, volume
shortcut keys, hotkeys, all that. I'm just about Googled out, so I
need some help. Is there a nonvisual way to activate the volume menu
in the Fedora installer? I've also downloaded Trisquel, but with only
free software, I'm not so sure it'd be all that good. Besides that,
it was last revised, at least in release, a good 2 years ago, so I
think Fedora will be the distro of choice, if only I can get it
installed.
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