Re: [orca-list] Please test master with Gtk+ 3 (re typeahead search and caja event spam)

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

No, I take it all back.

Distortion is also present with the current release package, just not
nearly as pronounced. So, perhaps I should downversion alsa-lib and see
what happens with orca-git ...

Janina


Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> Hey Janina.
>
> I believe you when you say returning to the official Arch package made
> the issue go away. However, I cannot help but wonder if something else
> in the orca-git Arch package and/or its dependencies are to blame. After
> all, how Orca processes accessible object events doesn't have anything
> to do with speech-dispatcher.
>
> --joanie
>
> On 12/26/2016 11:54 AM, Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I ran the orca-git script from the Arch AUR repository last Friday by
> > way of trying out these latest changes. I was surprised by the audio
> > distortion this introduced. In fact, I found it hard to believe Orca
> > introduced this noise, as there was an alsa-lib update that got applied
> > in a general system-wide upgrade.
> >
> > But, deleting orca-git and returning to the current Orca 3.22.2-1 build
> > available on Arch alone cleared the noise issue.
> >
> > I will try again with orca-git, but I can't build at the moment for some
> > reason or other. It's not fetching the source.
> >
> > In any case, my main point is that the noise won't be acceptable. Far
> > better to have too much chatter, imo, if that's the trade-off.
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > Joanmarie Diggs writes:
> > > Hi Jean-Philippe.
> > >
> > > The other day I removed some more "noise." Have you tested the latest
> > > master? As for not announcing "text" at all, I continue to think that's
> > > a bad idea because you are in the text entry and being in the text entry
> > > means you are not in the icons. Being in the text entry and not in the
> > > icons impacts what keystrokes work and what keystrokes don't work and
> > > what the keystrokes that do work will do.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/26/2016 04:10 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Do you think we could remove the "noise" in the file manager? Hearing
> > > > "text", what we type, the element, makes sense, but the remaining noise
> > > > should be missing, don't you think?
> > > >
> > > > Moreover, I know that beginners are disturbed by any "noise", even if
> > > > technically it's useful as it says wether we're on a text area or not.
> > > > Typically, announcing "text" when typing 1st letters of an icon could
> > > > disturb some people.
> > > >
> > > > Couldn't we set this as a preference (in specific prefs for Caja in Orca)?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your feedback
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 14/12/2016 à 14:33, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit :
> > > > > Hi again,
> > > > >
> > > > > I made more tests and I've some reflexion:
> > > > > When the desktop has been just focused, for instance when coming from
> > > > > the software menu to desktop; if I type one letter, for instance l, it
> > > > > says "l" "text" and the icon. If I stay on the desktop and I search an
> > > > > other icon with the same way, it says directly the name of the icon,
> > > > > which is the behavior I expect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is your hack supposed to concern the file manager?
> > > > >
> > > > > In the file manager, when typing one letter, it says the reached element
> > > > > and other blabla after. We don't need the other information, but at
> > > > > least, it says the reached element first which is the most important.
> > > > >
> > > > > When typing several letters, it says "text", and the letters, and the
> > > > > element, and the title of the window and other blabla.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Raphaël
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/13/2016 06:29 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > > Hey guys.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just committed a change to Orca master which should minimize some of
> > > > > > the problems described with respect to Caja, which spews accessibility
> > > > > > events rather enthusiastically when typeahead search is used. I have so
> > > > > > far only made the changes for Gtk+ 3 and it is a heuristic. Thus testing
> > > > > > would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > --joanie
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