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Re: [orca-list] is cinnamon accessible?

I am a bit confused by a couple things you write.
First, what do you mean by threaten in the context of a computer interface in general, and especially here 
talking about some part of the installation 
process?
Also I am not sure if I understand what you mean with:

The system has a ubiquity slide show so maybe

using ubiquity rather than orca gets a better install experience.  I'll have
to try that next.


Ubiquity is not a screenreader, and as far as I know had never had any kind of direct TTS support or option 
of any kind.
Are you saying that it can run a text mode installer that could use speakup or another CLI screenreader?

A root account is not created for you; probably best

to do that post-install.  


Is a root account required for anything that most users will need or want to do, or can one do most admin 
tasks using sudo, e.g. install and update 
software, edit systemwide configurastion files, so forth and so  on?
Isn't sudo included by default with Mint and is it not configured out of the box to let the user who installs 
the OS use sudo for all administrative tasks 
such as Ubuntu, Manjaro, etc?

Assuming one does indeed get a standard sudo configuration of one kind of another then unless he or she must 
work with one of the programs that requires 
something other than sudo or sudo su, i.e. an actual root login, the user is generaly better off not creating 
a root password. Sudo can let them restrict 
or completely block other users from accessing sensitive files and or using potentially dangerous 
applications.
This is of course user preference to a point, and the freedom to choose things like this is part of the 
beautiful power and flexability of our now 25 year 
old Linux!
Happy B-day Linux, and congrats Linus, not bad for a little school project, eh?
Thanks for your post, Jude, and thanks in advance for any clarification.
 
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  Jude DaShiell wrote:
Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 03:22:43PM -0400


Okay, if in lftp you do a get on the torrent url then do a torrent
./torrenturl
the torrent downloads no problems.

Cinnamonmint the version I downloaded is accessible and uses gtk2 and has
orca in it already.  It may use some gtk3 but I haven't found that yet in
what I updated with it yet.
There are things I cannot yet do with cinnamonmint probably due to a lack of
knowledge but I'll explain what I can here to make the path easier for
others.

After burning the dvd and booting the dvd, listen for the bells and those
may take about five minutes to ring.
Once bells have rung, type alt-f2 orca <enter>.
That should bring up orca.
super-d brings up the desktop.
Downarrow to install cinnamon icon and hit enter to install.
If you're using english hit control-tab to get continue button then hit
enter.
Now you're on a silent screen so hit alt-f4 to threaten cinnamonmint and
then tab to cancel button and hit enter and you'll hear the screen content
cinnamonmint didn't want to tell you until you threatened it. This threat
technique is quite useful throughout the installer.  The rest of the
questions in the installer are pretty simple to answer and there aren't as
many as other distros.  A root account is not created for you; probably best
to do that post-install.  The system has a ubiquity slide show so maybe
using ubiquity rather than orca gets a better install experience.  I'll have
to try that next.
When it's time to restart system wait until dvd tray is opened by the system
before removing dvd.
cinnamonmint takes about 2 minutes to be ready to log you in on hard drive.
First thing to do and I found this out with sighted assistance on boot
screen to log in is hit f1 then key in user name and hit enter then key in
password then hit enter.  If you did it right you hear bells again and
you're logged in.
hit alt-f2 orca to get screen reader talking.
alt-f2 gnome-terminal <enter>
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-reader-enabled true
<enter>
exit <enter>
then reboot.
Orca does not work during login but turns on after correct credentials are
entered during login and you hear orca speak before bells ring for
successful login.
I have no idea how to get orca talking before login and continue to talk
through login yet.
The other thing I don't know how to do is turn accessibility settings on by
checking the box.  I haven't managed to login as root directly with orca and
get to universal accessibility on cinnamonmint yet either.  I need to find
out how to do that.
Network settings are accessed by running cinnamon-control-center and apt-get
is available for updates when you're ready to do those.
More than that I don't know yet.

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 03:23:25
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] is cinnamon accessible?

if you can download latest version from original provider it is
accessible. It's not possible to download their torrent since no issuer
is available for their certificate so certificate isn't trusted by lftp.
Searching on google shows complaints by people who accidentally turned
the screen reader on and want to turn it off.  I used cinnamon mint
"screen reader" as a google search and found that much.  When other
distros come out with their own versions of distributions they tend to
lack features found in original distributions.  I tried using:
https://torrents.linuxmint.com/torrents/linuxmint-18-cinnamon-64bit.iso.torrent
for a download.



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