Re: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Structure it however you like.  You do need to make sure it has a structure though and that it is 
learner-centric.  Stick the installation at the end as an appendix or something if that's how you feel.  From 
a technical writing and curriculum design standpoint, I cans ee why they did what they did at Freedom 
Scientific if this is how they structured their materials.  Installation and configuration instructions are 
very commonly placed at the beginning of many software courses.  I also see your point, though.

Alex M

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn [mailto:glennervin cableone net] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:51 PM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

One thing I would not do first is to do the install section first, since most people will be trying it before 
installing it.
Freedom Scientific made this mistake in their Jaws training tapes, as they did the how-to steps on the same 
tape as the tape that held the getting started.
When in fact, most users don't know enough about using the product to even install it, so someone else 
usually installs it for them, and they have to find the spot in the tape that actually starts teaching the 
basics of using a computer with keyboard commands.
FS no longer sends out tapes, but I think they do this on the training CD too.
I think that even the DAISY training that comes with Jaws is meaningless for beginners, if there is not an 
experienced person there to get them started with the techniques for accessing that form of training.
We need to assume in this training that the person using it is just booted up, and knows nothing about the 
operating system, and keyboard commands.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Midence" <alex midence gmail com>
To: "Glenn / Lenny" <GlennErvin cableone net>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:30 PM
Subject: FW: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed


Sorry, this went to the wrong person.  Please see below:


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Midence [mailto:alex midence gmail com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 8:51 AM
To: 'Tony Baechler'
Subject: RE: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

Hi, there,

Listen, you'll probably want to give some more specific guidelines to your SME (service matter expert) for 
this project.  An outline of sorts for each installment in the series complete with exercise for the learner. 
 It's how I'd do it if I was writing the curriculum.  Example:

1.  Installing Orca.
1.1.  Using your distribution's package manager.
1.2  Installing form master.
1.3.  Try it out.
2.  Configuring Orca.
1.1  Global Orca Settings.
1.1.1  The tabs of the Orca configuration GUI.
1.2.  Configuring Orca on a per application basis.
1.3  Try it out.
2.  Reading text files with Orca.
3.  Using Orca with Libreoffice.
4.  Orca and the browser experience.
5.  E-mailing with Orca.
6.  Using Orca in the terminal.
6.1  Navigating the command line with Orca.
6.2.  Running terminal applications with Orca.
6.  Miscellaneous applications with Orca.
Appendices:
A.  Filing bugs on Orca.
B.  Modifying Orca with plugins.

You get the picture, I'm sure.  Make sure whoever does it has a real clear set of objectives for each 
learning module so that it doesn't go all over the map and that they have concrete and realistic case studies 
relevant to a wide user base.  Extremely commendable  that you all are willing to take this on.  It is indeed 
a real need and stands to do a lot of good.  You know, you ought to collaborate with Lynda.com or somebody 
like that who does this sort of thing as an industry if you want to go commercial with it. 
Just a thought.

Best of luck.
Alex Midence
Trainer and Instructional Designer




-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Tony Baechler
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:34 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

Hi all,

If the below offer interests you, please write off list.  Thanks.

On 9/3/2015 9:24 PM, Glenn wrote:
> I would like some podcasts and/or audio tutorials that I could put on 
> it so he can listen to that and get started.


Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, there really aren't any.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but of those I've seen, they're years out of date and don't really go 
into a lot of detail.  There are lots of podcasts for the general Linux community, but as with most things, 
they assume you can click a mouse and don't cover accessibility.  You are one of several people who have 
asked for this kind of thing.

Therefore, since I don't know of anything that's current and there is a serious need, I'm willing to 
commission someone to put together such a tutorial.  They would be paid for their time.  Extensive knowledge 
of the GUI and command line are required.  A high quality microphone is a plus, but not absolutely necessary. 
 Knowledge of how to produce audio files and record the speech from the sound card is also a must.  Payment 
will depend on experience level, turnaround time, etc.  My eventual goal would be to produce a six to eight 
hour package which could be purchased, but the getting started guide, learning Orca, installation, etc would 
be freely released under an open license.

While I don't have anything current to suggest, I can give you some general links for some very good 
podcasts, albeit not specifically for the blind.  I would ask that if you do find any which are for the 
blind, you carefully check the dates.  If they're more than a few years old, the information is most likely 
wrong.  In no particular order, here you go:

http://www.mintcast.com/

The following site has tons of links to other podcasts, again not specifically for the blind.  I suggest 
Going Linux and Linux For the Rest of Us.

http://www.thelinuxlink.net/

If you do find something useful, please let me know.  I would be very interested as I've been asked this 
several times and it would be good to have a current resource to recommend.
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