Re: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

["Glenn" <glennervin cableone net>]

One thing I would not do first is to do the install section first, since 
most people will be trying it before installing it.
Freedom Scientific made this mistake in their Jaws training tapes, as they 
did the how-to steps on the same tape as the tape that held the getting 
started.
When in fact, most users don't know enough about using the product to even 
install it, so someone else usually installs it for them, and they have to 
find the spot in the tape that actually starts teaching the basics of using 
a computer with keyboard commands.
FS no longer sends out tapes, but I think they do this on the training CD 
too.
I think that even the DAISY training that comes with Jaws is meaningless for 
beginners, if there is not an experienced person there to get them started 
with the techniques for accessing that form of training.
We need to assume in this training that the person using it is just booted 
up, and knows nothing about the operating system, and keyboard commands.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Midence" <alex midence gmail com>
To: "Glenn / Lenny" <GlennErvin cableone net>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:30 PM
Subject: FW: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed


Sorry, this went to the wrong person.  Please see below:


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Midence [mailto:alex midence gmail com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 8:51 AM
To: 'Tony Baechler'
Subject: RE: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

Hi, there,

Listen, you'll probably want to give some more specific guidelines to your 
SME (service matter expert) for this project.  An outline of sorts for each 
installment in the series complete with exercise for the learner.  It's how 
I'd do it if I was writing the curriculum.  Example:

1.  Installing Orca.
1.1.  Using your distribution's package manager.
1.2  Installing form master.
1.3.  Try it out.
2.  Configuring Orca.
1.1  Global Orca Settings.
1.1.1  The tabs of the Orca configuration GUI.
1.2.  Configuring Orca on a per application basis.
1.3  Try it out.
2.  Reading text files with Orca.
3.  Using Orca with Libreoffice.
4.  Orca and the browser experience.
5.  E-mailing with Orca.
6.  Using Orca in the terminal.
6.1  Navigating the command line with Orca.
6.2.  Running terminal applications with Orca.
6.  Miscellaneous applications with Orca.
Appendices:
A.  Filing bugs on Orca.
B.  Modifying Orca with plugins.

You get the picture, I'm sure.  Make sure whoever does it has a real clear 
set of objectives for each learning module so that it doesn't go all over 
the map and that they have concrete and realistic case studies relevant to a 
wide user base.  Extremely commendable  that you all are willing to take 
this on.  It is indeed a real need and stands to do a lot of good.  You 
know, you ought to collaborate with Lynda.com or somebody like that who does 
this sort of thing as an industry if you want to go commercial with it. 
Just a thought.

Best of luck.
Alex Midence
Trainer and Instructional Designer




-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Tony 
Baechler
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:34 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Podcasts and/or audio tutorials needed

Hi all,

If the below offer interests you, please write off list.  Thanks.

On 9/3/2015 9:24 PM, Glenn wrote:
> I would like some podcasts and/or audio tutorials that I could put on
> it so he can listen to that and get started.


Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, there really aren't any.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but of those I've seen, they're 
years out of date and don't really go into a lot of detail.  There are lots 
of podcasts for the general Linux community, but as with most things, they 
assume you can click a mouse and don't cover accessibility.  You are one of 
several people who have asked for this kind of thing.

Therefore, since I don't know of anything that's current and there is a 
serious need, I'm willing to commission someone to put together such a 
tutorial.  They would be paid for their time.  Extensive knowledge of the 
GUI and command line are required.  A high quality microphone is a plus, but 
not absolutely necessary.  Knowledge of how to produce audio files and 
record the speech from the sound card is also a must.  Payment will depend 
on experience level, turnaround time, etc.  My eventual goal would be to 
produce a six to eight hour package which could be purchased, but the 
getting started guide, learning Orca, installation, etc would be freely 
released under an open license.

While I don't have anything current to suggest, I can give you some general 
links for some very good podcasts, albeit not specifically for the blind.  I 
would ask that if you do find any which are for the blind, you carefully 
check the dates.  If they're more than a few years old, the information is 
most likely wrong.  In no particular order, here you go:

http://www.mintcast.com/

The following site has tons of links to other podcasts, again not 
specifically for the blind.  I suggest Going Linux and Linux For the Rest of 
Us.

http://www.thelinuxlink.net/

If you do find something useful, please let me know.  I would be very 
interested as I've been asked this several times and it would be good to 
have a current resource to recommend.
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