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Re: [orca-list] linux notetaker (was gui)

Oh, wow. How much does it cost?

On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za> wrote:

We have done a linux note taker.
see http://www.sa-note.com.
For more details email me at wvdwalt csir co za
I did not follow the previous thread, but in short, our device runs both orca and speakup and is 
menu-driven in the speakup/console mode as well as of course, when using orca.
It is not running the latest gui stuff.
Regards, Willem


On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, John Heim wrote:


I think you're right about the business opportunity. I have no interest in starting a business but I've 
been toying with the idea of building a linux notetaker for years now. It started when my department gave 
me a Soekris 4801. This is a computer about the size and shape of a VHS video tape. It has just 256M of 
ram and the equivalent of a 486 processor. But it's more than 10 years old. I just got a 4Gb CF drive for 
it. Anyway, 10 years ago, I put linux, brltty, andspeakup on it and used it like a braille notetaker.

I don't know if you could make any money this way but you can probably find a machine similar to a Soekris 
and attach a USB keyboard and headset. I don't think you'd want something from Soekris itself. That 
company specializes in small computers with a lot of ethernet ports. You're supposed to build your own 
network switches with them. You'd want something with extra USB ports and just one ethernet port.

Every once in a while, I poke around on the internet looking for the right hardware.  If I could find a 
netbook without a screen that I could install linux on, I'd have what I want.


On 09/02/2015 03:00 PM, Josh K wrote:

I am not a coder. never could really get the hang of it. well I can make little bash scripts that runs 
commands in sequence to do things. that's about it though for me. but if I ever went back to college I 
would get a laptop throw a solid state hard drive into it and make a ubuntu noteTaker out of it probably. 
hmmmmmm, I wonder if I could make a business out of that somehow? laptops with ubuntu linux or maybe 
sonar linux whatever worked on the machine throw in a ssd and a voxin license on top of a stable linux 
distro and sell ubuntu notetakers? It could be a business opportunity for me? if it works?
follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
On 9/2/2015 10:22 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

The problem is that not everyone can be expected to know how to code. If Linux is only for coders, which 
its not, considering all the little games out there for it, then I'm sure most sighted Linux users would 
have put the OS down years ago. You can't expect everyone to be coders and be able to fix accessibility 
problems.'
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 6:55 AM, kk <krmane gmail com> wrote:
Often we see that some part of the accessibility stack or the other gets broken  inadvertently
Imagine what would happen if for example some day for some time the accessibility of our settings panel 
in gnome is broken for some reason?
It will be fixed sooner or later but till then what will happen?
We will have no access to orca preference itself.
The case of accessibility is different.
We certainly need a way out and Orca accessibility in all aspects is crucial.  So we must have a 
dedicated hot key for accessing Orca prefs.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On Wednesday 02 September 2015 04:45 PM, Tony Baechler wrote:

On 9/1/2015 10:24 AM, B. Henry wrote:
Well, it's not unreasonalble to ask users to read a bit of documentation to learn a keystroke or two 
when trying a new desktop, but unless I'm missing
something folks like myself who use a window manager such as fluxbox and fill in accessibility gaps 
with custom scripts would be left out in the cold if
an orca prefs window was done away with.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.  I think that in this case, it is unreasonable to expect people to 
be required to read documentation in order to figure out how to set their Orca prefs. That attitude in 
general is why so many people, both blind and sighted, either are put off by Linux, won't try it in 
the first place or give up without ever installing it and giving it a fair chance.  I don't have a 
problem expecting people to read a basic accessibility guide and I agree that once people have learned 
the basics that they should be expected to read the docs, but expecting them to read the docs before 
they even get started is asking too much.  Other than your first statement, I agree with what I think 
you're trying to say.  I think you're agreeing with my previous post on the subject which is that 
regardless of what desktop or window manager, there needs to be a universal keystroke to access the 
Orca prefs.  I don't think people should have to read the docs to find it, how

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 ver.

What would be good is for Orca to open the prefs window automatically when it's started from a live 
environment so people don't have to hunt around to find them.  Maybe could a command line switch like 
--prefs be added for this?  I thought there was already such a switch, but I didn't see it when 
reading "orca --help" on my Ubuntu MATE 15.04 system.
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