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Re: [orca-list] linux notetaker (was gui)

The Sanote seems like a very promising portable computer for the
blind.  If it's affordable, it should be promoted worldwide!

VictorOn 9/3/15, Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za> wrote:

Hi John,
Indeed, the hardware spec is not there.
Here are the basics:
Sa-note hardware specification

- Processor: Intel® dual-core Atom™ D525 1.8Ghz, 1MB Cache, 667MHz FSB
- Memory: 4GB, DDR3, 1600, Notebook 204PIN single module
- Hard Drive: 320GB, 5400RPM, 2.5", SATA 1
- Features: 4 x USB 2.0; built-in microphones and speakers, 1 x

headphone socket, 1 x line

out socket, 1 x
external microphone socket, VGA adapter, audio device: Intel
Corporation
NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller, rj45 ethernet,
embedded
802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN, Bluetooth
- Battery life: Six to seven hours


On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, John Heim wrote:


I can't find the specifications anywhere on that site.  What kind of cpu
does
it have? How much ram and how big is the disk? What kind of external ports

does it have?




On 09/03/2015 10:46 AM, Willem van der Walt wrote:

We have done a linux note taker.
see http://www.sa-note.com.
For more details email me at wvdwalt csir co za
I did not follow the previous thread, but in short, our device runs both

orca and speakup and is menu-driven in the speakup/console mode as well
as
of course, when using orca.
It is not running the latest gui stuff.
Regards, Willem


On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, John Heim wrote:


I think you're right about the business opportunity. I have no interest
in
starting a business but I've been toying with the idea of building a
linux
notetaker for years now. It started when my department gave me a Soekris

4801. This is a computer about the size and shape of a VHS video tape.
It
has just 256M of ram and the equivalent of a 486 processor. But it's
more
than 10 years old. I just got a 4Gb CF drive for it. Anyway, 10 years
ago,
I put linux, brltty, andspeakup on it and used it like a braille
notetaker.

I don't know if you could make any money this way but you can probably
find a machine similar to a Soekris and attach a USB keyboard and
headset.
I don't think you'd want something from Soekris itself. That company
specializes in small computers with a lot of ethernet ports. You're
supposed to build your own network switches with them. You'd want
something with extra USB ports and just one ethernet port.

Every once in a while, I poke around on the internet looking for the
right
hardware.  If I could find a netbook without a screen that I could
install
linux on, I'd have what I want.


On 09/02/2015 03:00 PM, Josh K wrote:

I am not a coder. never could really get the hang of it. well I can
make
little bash scripts that runs commands in sequence to do things. that's

about it though for me. but if I ever went back to college I would get
a
laptop throw a solid state hard drive into it and make a ubuntu
noteTaker
out of it probably. hmmmmmm, I wonder if I could make a business out of

that somehow? laptops with ubuntu linux or maybe sonar linux whatever
worked on the machine throw in a ssd and a voxin license on top of a
stable linux distro and sell ubuntu notetakers? It could be a business

opportunity for me? if it works?

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 9/2/2015 10:22 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

The problem is that not everyone can be expected to know how to code.
If
Linux is only for coders, which its not, considering all the little
games out there for it, then I'm sure most sighted Linux users would
have put the OS down years ago. You can't expect everyone to be coders

and be able to fix accessibility problems.'

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 2, 2015, at 6:55 AM, kk <krmane gmail com> wrote:




Often we see that some part of the accessibility stack or the other
gets broken  inadvertently
Imagine what would happen if for example some day for some time the
accessibility of our settings panel in gnome is broken for some
reason?
It will be fixed sooner or later but till then what will happen?
We will have no access to orca preference itself.
The case of accessibility is different.
We certainly need a way out and Orca accessibility in all aspects is

crucial.  So we must have a dedicated hot key for accessing Orca
prefs.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On Wednesday 02 September 2015 04:45 PM, Tony Baechler wrote:

On 9/1/2015 10:24 AM, B. Henry wrote:
Well, it's not unreasonalble to ask users to read a bit of
documentation to learn a keystroke or two when trying a new
desktop,
but unless I'm missing
something folks like myself who use a window manager such as
fluxbox
and fill in accessibility gaps with custom scripts would be left
out
in the cold if
an orca prefs window was done away with.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.  I think that in this case, it is

unreasonable to expect people to be required to read documentation
in
order to figure out how to set their Orca prefs. That attitude in
general is why so many people, both blind and sighted, either are
put
off by Linux, won't try it in the first place or give up without
ever
installing it and giving it a fair chance. I don't have a problem
expecting people to read a basic accessibility guide and I agree
that
once people have learned the basics that they should be expected to

read the docs, but expecting them to read the docs before they even

get started is asking too much.  Other than your first statement, I

agree with what I think you're trying to say.  I think you're
agreeing
with my previous post on the subject which is that regardless of
what
desktop or window manager, there needs to be a universal keystroke
to
access the Orca prefs.  I don't think people should have to read the

docs to find it, how

e

  ver.

What would be good is for Orca to open the prefs window
automatically
when it's started from a live environment so people don't have to
hunt
around to find them.  Maybe could a command line switch like --prefs

be added for this?  I thought there was already such a switch, but I

didn't see it when reading "orca --help" on my Ubuntu MATE 15.04
system.
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