Re: [orca-list] Emacs editor

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
My only complaint with emacspeak is that to get any serious support you
need to use the ibmtts speech synthesizer. It *will* work with espeak,
but a lot of the features don't work. Voice locking, personalities, etc.
This can be fixed though and is just temporary. Other than that
emacspeak is great. I personally don't have much of a need for it since
I use mainly graphical programs but it's an option for us blind people
and that's always a good thing.  And it's open source. It does a heck of
a lot more than one of those 6000 dollar notetakers and it runs on
linux. Can't do better than that
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 10/26/2015 08:00 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I haven't tried speechd-el yet, but I've been an Emacspeak user for
> almost 20 years. I can't compare the two, since I only have experience
> with Emacspeak.
>
> I do know the following though:
>
> It isn't true that all of the Emacspeak development is just on adding
> Emacspeak specific functionality that isn't needed. I'm not saying there
> aren't reason to use speechd-el over Emacspeak, and I'm sure there are
> some grains of truth to a statement like this, but it's so generic and
> using so many superlatives, it's almost certainly not true and stated
> from a philosophical position rather than a pragmatic one. I'd ask for
> more specific details before putting any stock in statements like this.
>
> I never found the build process for Emacspeak to be fragile or opaque.
> It's no different than compiling any other source code using a make file.
>
> Emacspeak generally speaks what you need to hear while working with
> Emacs. I virtually never need to use Emacspeak specific key strokes, but
> they're nice to have when I want to drill down for more specific
> information or get it more efficiently.
>
>
> On 10/26/2015 07:43 AM, Will Estes wrote:
> > All the active development on emacspeak is on adding functionality
> > that is emacspeak specific and generally not needed. It's also, often,
> > things that would be better handled outside of the "screen reading"
> > component. When I last used emacspeak, I found its build process
> > fragile and opaque.
> >
> > speechd-el, on the other hand, simply lets emacs be emacs -- just with
> > speech output. So you're not remembering additional screen reader
> > specific commands other than the basics to make speech output the way
> > you ened it.
> >
> > There is a good tutorial inside emacs itself. speechd-el explains how
> > to get it up and running inside emacs -- which you could do outside of
> > emacs using another editor if you'd rather. Although the trick about
> > using emacs in non-windowing mode mentioned on the list earlier is
> > workable, certainly as a starting point.
> >
> > On Monday, 26 October 2015,  1:34 pm +0100, Peter Vágner
> > <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think emacs is really powerfull editor.
> > >
> > > Can some of you knowing it better either give a few words on why you
> > > prefer
> > > speechd-el over emacspeak or the other way round?
> > > It appears emacspeak is more active developed than speechd-el.
> > >
> > > Also is there a howto for beginers and noobs looking at learning this?
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > On 26.10.2015 at 09:16 Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > > On 25/10/2015 22:48, Mike Dupont wrote:
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacspeak check out emacspeak it is
> > > > > supposed to be very good and also allows for access to other things.
> > > > There are also speechd-el. You can find information here :
> > > > http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd-el
> > > >
> > > > I use this line in my bashrc to make Emacs in CLI automatically :
> > > > alias emacs='emacs -nw'
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Alex.
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