Re: [orca-list] bug with this bbc site:

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

In their defense, I think they have no choice as they are a gov agency and British laws are quite 
restirictive as their content is largely payed for by 
television licensing fees. 
I don't know if they have potential wiggle room, but suspect tehy might, but lawyers are destorying freedoms 
as fast as they protect them, and this in a 
global problem with some countries notably standing out by having laws that tend to promote media freedom 
including online. 
The BBC case is a pretty  unique one I thik though, and does have them in an interesting spot/don't want to 
see them lose more funding, so until they 
can come up with a more modern financing scheme, or better said a scheme that will continue and hopefully 
augment their financing I'll keep working 
around the edges and sneaking in to chinks in their armor as it were...lol
  

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  kendell clark wrote:
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 07:33:48AM -0500

> hi
> media source extensions is basically drm built into html5. I was afraid
> of this. The bbc is so fond of drm they don't want to make watching
> their stuff easy without it.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> On 10/18/2015 07:30 AM, Majid Hussain wrote:
> > slightly ot then,
> > furious with the bbc, here is what I get when searching bbc iplayer html5.
> > on there site I get this.
> > Sorry, we can't provide you with the HTML5 Player beta because your
> > browser doesn't support Media Source Extensions. Please try another
> > browser. Only Google Chrome is supported on your platform at this
> > time. Other browsers may work if you have support for non-free video
> > codecs on your device.
> >
> >
> > what is media source extentions?
> > and why does linux not have them?
> > sorry for going ot there.
> > I do have another bug but will post in another mail.
> > from a furious, Majid Hussain
> >
> > On 18/10/2015, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:
> > > hi
> > > If bbc requires flash, than you definitely should install it, it's
> > > called flashplugin in the arch repos, including sonar. That being said,
> > > it definitely is not shipped by default. Not only because it's non free,
> > > but because personally kyle and I have no use for it and refuse to
> > > encourage it's use. That being said, I think bbc uses html5. If you're
> > > used to windows, nvda can occasionally read flash videos in an embedded
> > > player using proprietary adobe accessibility type libraries available
> > > only on, you guessed it, windows, so orca can't simply add this support.
> > > This means that orca can't read these controlls. To be honest though, in
> > > practice, almost never are these things accessible, and when they are
> > > accessible, they often break, at which point they can't get fixed
> > > because the offending site, naturally, knows nothing about how
> > > accessibility works. Back on topic, what should happen is that the bbc
> > > uses html5, which will work on any platform, with any browser. Those
> > > controlls are nearly always accessible, and don't require any
> > > proprietary bits to make work. I don't think they do though, which isn't
> > > helpful.
> > > Thanks
> > > Kendell clark
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/18/2015 06:20 AM, Tony Baechler wrote:
> > > > On 10/18/2015 3:36 AM, Majid Hussain wrote:
> > > > > i'm using orca master on sonar mate.
> > > > > stepps to reproduce,
> > > > > 1.
> > > > > go to
> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p034162z
> > > > > 2.
> > > > > when the page has loaded, try to navigate to the imbedded media player.
> > > > > 3.
> > > > > what should happen,
> > > > > orca should present the buttons of the player.
> > > > > what it does,
> > > > > orca says blank
> > > > > instead of the controlls.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know this seems obvious and I apologize if this is unhelpful, but have
> > > > you installed Flash?  I know there were some major security issues with
> > > > Flash on all platforms and I think Flash support on Linux is not great.
> > > > I believe Sonar only ships free software which Flash definitely isn't,
> > > > so I would guess that Flash is not included.  I don't use Sonar, so
> > > > someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Without Flash, the BBC site won't work
> > > > and it would make sense for Orca not to display the player since it
> > > > requires Flash.  If you do have Flash installed, please disregard as you
> > > > probably did find an Orca bug.
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