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Re: [orca-list] Is the manjaro installer accessible?

Thanks for the responses once again. To be clear, i'm not particularly
anti gnome, just more expressing my wish that other desktops could be
just as influential as far as accessibility is concerned. I think as
far as my favorite environment right now, it's got to be mate. It uses
very little memory, and it can run on some pretty dated hardware,
which is impressive. Now, if they could just fork ubuntu mate over to
the arm platform like for the raspberry-pi, i would be a very content
linux inthusiast.

On 3/6/15, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:

I'm going to concentrate on your selection of desktops.  There are a few
options out there based on how much configuring and tweaking you are
comfortable with or are even willing to do:

Gnome is the most reliably accessible option.
Unity in Ubuntu is workably accessible if you want something other than
Gnome.
Mate is very accessible but, it's a fork of gnome 2 so, if you are
anti-gnome, you are not going to be happy.  I tried it and liked it.
XFCE has reported high levels of accessibility except for the file manager
and the panels.
Fluxbox can be made to work accessibly with a good bit of tweaking and a
script.
LXDE is somewhat accessible but needs some tweaking and tinkering.
KDE is the king of overpromising and underdelivering in a11y for screen
readers.  It's been almost accessible for years now.  If you want to use it,
be prepared for disappointment. There's basically been just one person
working in his spare time on qt accessibility and no organized, concerted
effort to get the desktop itself working with Orca.

So, there you go.  Moral of the story:  gnome, Mate and Unity will require
the least amount of tweaking and configuring,.  All the rest are pretty iffy
or require lots of setup.  There are choices out there though.

Alex M

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From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of B. Henry
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:35 AM
To: austinAustin quesada; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Is the manjaro installer accessible?

Arch may break stuff, but I have never seen it break accessibility. You can
always freeze some packages from updating if you have specific fears, but
speakup is in all the kernels, and orca  updates would only effect some
functionality if you choose the orca-git package in the AUR where clearly
you are working with development versions. The at-spi packages do  mostly
have git options as well, but I have mostly run the stable branch versions,
mostly in extra or commnunity repos, same with speech-dispatcher, although I
did use the AUR version for a while. Again, I have had arch breakage, but
accessibility has never been the issue. Some packages may requiure some
initial configuration to get the most accessible interface, but those
configurations are not overwritten with updates.
You can add repos to get your proprietary firmware if you wish to use
Debian.
Manjaro has more than one version as I recall, but I do not know if they all
use the same installer or not.
Ubuntu will give you out of the box hardware support for most machines, so
as Kyle states it is also a good option.
Orca is a gnome project, so it is hardly a surprise that it concentrates on
gnome. XFCE devs seem to be generally overwhelmed, and have given up on
accessibility for the moment, proablyh the year anyway. Mate cares, and Orca
has made the minor adaptations required to help it be a very good
alternative.
My suggestion is to contact those in charge of any desktop you wish to use
and ask about accessiility, and  make specific suggestions if things are far
enough along to do that.
If you do not mind installing a new OS frequently then Fedora is an option
as well, and I know some folks using Gentoo, but you need to know your stuph
before jumping in there, more so than with arch which requires more time and
knowledge than the other options mentioned.



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  austinAustin quesada wrote:
Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 03:56:00PM -0800


Hi list. While i think sonar is great, i was wondering if manjaro
itself has orca built in? If not, could you guys advise on a distro
that is not debien based? I know people usually advise ubuntu or gnome
as the default desktop. I'm admittedly a bit frustrated that linux
accessibility appears to be singularly focused on the gnome project,
or Ubuntu. While arch is a great option, my concern is that it's
frequent updates have the possibility of breaking accessibility. Sorry
for my rant, but i'm basically looking for a distro that doesn't use
gnome as the default, but could still work with orca, whether through
an installer, or the command line. So, what are my options? The reason
i brought up Debien is because, it seems to have issues with most of
my hardware, because i seem to need a lot of proprietary firmware and
drivers. Thanks for any advice, and thanks for reading.
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The manual is at
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The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to
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