Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Re: [Support] autoinstall of talking arch

[Todor Fassl <fassl tod gmail com>]

I'm only marginally a Windows systems administrator. My department has 
someone else to help the Windows users. But in my department, linux 
users out number Windows users about 10 to 1 yet the Windows users 
require way, way more help with their machines either because of viruses 
or some other problem with their system.

I know that over the years, many of the Windows users have been made 
administrators on their machines because otherwise, they can't get their 
work done. Or so they say anyway. And then they're always getting 
viruses. I think if you're an administrator, it's difficult to avoid 
viruses entirely. Of course, it could be that our previous Windows admin 
was incompetent.  We just got a new guy.

On our linux systems, the end-users don't even have sudo rights. They 
could install something in their personal space that would steal their 
own data. But they can't install something system-wide.

What someone could do is  steal someone's passwrod, ssh to one of our 
workstations, and install a root kit.  But then there would be all kinds 
of other restrictions. For example, as root, you cannot read personal 
data files. You can't mount someone's home directory as root. You'd 
actually be better off as a normal user.

On 02/16/2015 01:14 PM, Josh K wrote:
> also with users the way they are, wouldn't they infect their own linux 
> systems by unwittingly running viruses and stuff just like the windows 
> users do? or am I wrong perhaps?
>
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>
> On 2/16/2015 1:32 PM, Kyle wrote:
> > With things like viruses, compromises of personal data and other things
> > we hear about in the news every day, I could never recommend running
> > Windows in an office setting either. Fact is that Windows was initially
> > designed for gamers and children, whereas Linux and other Unix-like
> > operating systems have been designed with business in mind, and have
> > only recently, say within the last 10 to 12 years or so, gotten to the
> > point where more casual home users can feel comfortable using it. No
> > marketing hype in the world will change my perception of Windows as a
> > toy and nothing more, especially when I can't watch the news without
> > seeing yet another infected ATM, credit card machine or other bank or
> > store related terminal that never should have been running Windows in
> > the first place, but has been compromised because it does, and an old
> > version at that. So yeah, I'm for Linux or BSD all the way, and Linux is
> > the most polished OS I've been able to find that talks to me, unless
> > anyone has any pointers on how to get a *real* BSD (NOT MacOS) talking,
> > in which case, I'm all ears. Man do I want me some BSD! But then again,
> > BSD just doesn't seem to have the hardware support or even the ease of
> > use that Linux now enjoys, so it will still require some shell knowledge
> > at this point, and I can't really recommend it to novice users the way I
> > have been able to get them turned on to the easier non-geek-oriented
> > Linux distros.
> > Sent from my coffee maker
>
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