Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Re: [Support] autoinstall of talking arch

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I assume you're replying to Jason's message. I agree, and I think 
Canonical, Gnome and others are working hard to make Linux a viable 
desktop alternative to the proprietary desktop operating systems. I run 
Ubuntu with Unity, and the other day I had to look up an apt-get cheat 
sheet because I'd gotten so used to using the various desktop options to 
manage the packages on my system. Having the shell there is great, but I 
agree, I don't think it's a necessity anymore.

I'm not as down on Windows as you are though. I run it at the office, 
but choose to run Ubuntu at home.

On 02/16/2015 11:58 AM, Kyle wrote:
> I beg to differ when it comes to knowledge of the shell being a
> requirement for using Linux. The shell is indeed great for some, and I
> personally keep a terminal running all the time, just in case I choose
> to use it. On the other hand, graphical tools have certainly developed
> to the point where people just don't have to use a terminal or a shell
> at all unless they want to use it. Arch probably isn't for those people,
> but distros like Ubuntu, openSUSE and Fedora fit the bill quite nicely
> in that regard. I even have a client who is using Manjaro and never
> called me for any type of support once the system was installed and
> working, and this client was initially running Microsoft Windows on a
> used computer that already had viruses on it. Sorry, but I cannot in
> good conscience recommend either Microsoft Windows or MacOS to anyone at
> all, not even my worst enemy, assuming I had one, not when there are
> perfectly good desktop Linux distros for them to use. And just in case
> anyone has any remaining douts about Linux being for everyone, let me
> point out that one of the operating systems mentioned as an alternative,
> ChromeOS, is actually Gentoo. Sure they hide all the finer points behind
> a pretty good browser, but it is completely Gentoo underneath, complete
> with Portage. Personally, I don't use Gentoo my own self, with the
> exception of ChromeOS occasionally, as I found it to be nothing but
> trouble to get up and running, but there you have it; Linux is indeed
> for everyone. No matter your skill level or administrative knowledge,
> there is indeed a Linux for you.
> Sent from my coffee maker

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Christopher (CJ)
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