Re: [orca-list] F123 available for download - easy switch to



Thanks BH,

Based on some of the problems I have seen reported on the list, there are still important things that need fixing on Mate. But I will re-evaluate since these things change quickly. In the mean time, please do share any script that might make changing to Mate easier. That will help a bunch of people.

Regarding search-based and menu based interfaces. F123 uses Gnome Shell, but with a twist. Our Gnome Shell gives you a menu not a search box when you do Alt F1. The same with Control ESC, but with the latter, the menu is a simplified version of the full alt F1 menu.

Best,

Fernando



On 09/29/2014 04:02 PM, B. Henry wrote:
Why not just use the 1.8 packages available in  standard arch official repos?
Yes, there are _a _few minor accessibility issues, but these should not effect the average user.
I've not seen what log-in system, (dm), is used by current F123, but as long as one could switch between 
environments there there should be no problem.
A script to change default could be included.
I have had a very major setback which means I'm spending a lot of time to recreate my customized arch system 
and recupperate/redo as much of my last
year's work as possible, but once I'm more or less caught up want to look at how to include a customized set 
of defaults for panels untill multiple
panels can be focused by orca.
If the two panel default could be changed to a single panel, probably located on the bottom, I can't think of 
anything that would be even slightly
problematic even for novice users with the current mate.
I do not know what the timetable is for fixing the panel focus issue, but not only would this make F123 a 
more viable option for less robust hardware,
but it would make transition from older f123 smoother as there'd not be the need to learn and adapt ones 
computing style to gnome3.
And with out getting back in to the debate as to what is a better interface, it is clear that many users do 
prefer a menu-driven GUI such as is used by
Mate or XFCE over the more search-driven interfaces such as gnome shell. This prefference is notable both for 
Linux novices and power-users, those new
to computers altogether and those coming from a Windows background.
I am not suggesting removing gnome as an option by any means as it has its fans and is going to be where 
accessibility improvements will first come to
the Linux GUI in some cases, but including Mate seems to be a no brainer to me.
Regards,
--
B.H.


On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 01:43:17PM -0300, Fernando Botelho wrote:
Apologies for your difficulties.

The default version of F123 uses Gnome Shell, so it will not work on older
computers. We are looking for ways to support Mate development so that we
can offer a version that works on older machines.

Fernando

On 09/27/2014 11:47 AM, Glenn wrote:
I had a similar, if not the same,  problem installing F123 on my Asus 701
notebook.
It has a Celeron M 900 MHZ processor and 1 GB of RAM.
It has a 4GB SD, but I was just trying a live session to try it out.
I was running it from an SD card.
I installed it onto the card with Universal USB and I selected Arch Manderan
or whatever that name is.
I will try the SD card on another computer, but it looked like the attempt
to boot was okay, indicating that my USB burn was okay, as when that goes
bad, my boot attempts land on a black screen.
I hope this can run on X86 computers.

Glenn
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:07:51 +0200
From: "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" <ernesta tiscali cz>
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] F123 available for download - easy switch to
Orca Master
Message-ID: <54255717 7090005 tiscali cz>
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Dear sir,
Very good job, but i Am very unhappy, because live system do not work on
IBM Thinkpad T43 2668 with 512 MB of RAM.
I have also tested with notebook Model: Toshiba Satellite L650D
System type: x64-based PC
BIOS: Insyde Corp. (version: 1.80; date: 29.6.2011)
    Manufacturer: Insyde Corp.
    Version: 1.80
    Date: 29.6.2011
Serial number: 5A195197Q
Motherboard: TOSHIBA (Portable PC; version: Base Board Version)
    Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
    Product: Portable PC
    Version: Base Board Version
Chassis: Notebook
Processor: AMD Turion(tm) II P520 Dual-Core Processor (architecture:
x64; 2300 MHz)
    Name: AMD Turion(tm) II P520 Dual-Core Processor

My sighted mother found out, that there is proggress bar which start to
stop on position 5, virtual consoles are working but X server can not be
loaded, no desktop.
I can not login to virtual consoles by typing user name
sonar
passwords
onar

Very strange.
I have checked .iso file with 7zip iso check feature and it works
perfectly, and this algorithm did not find corrupted .iso image.




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