Re: [orca-list] a few questions about orca debug files

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
Regarding Firefox Burt has raised a similar issue. Originally I assumed 
orca is relying on documentcomplete event from gecko to tell if the page 
has fully loaded. Now looking into the Gecko toolkit script for orca I 
fail to find this. I can remember NVDA having the same issue a while ago 
and at that time the outcome was that this is not accurate enough e.g. 
when starting downloading a file, when document is busy loading for a 
while etc.
I have noticed that a workaround for this situation while using orca is 
to focus away from the document window and then focus back. Easiest is 
to alt+tab away and then back.

Greetings

Peter


On 14.09.2014 at 07:47 kendell clark wrote:
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> hi all
> Ok, I've decided it's time to double down and start helping orca,
> since my emails thus far have been little more than, hi. X and Y
> doesn't work, I think it's z. With not much else to back them up. I've
> got a couple of questions about orca's debug files. I know how to
> start orca with a debug file being generated, orca
> - --debugfile=/path/to/file. There's also a setting in orca's
> preferences labeled something like cycle the debug level at run time,
> which is neat. I've bound this to orca+d, which works. My question is,
> does this work? and if so, where are the files stored? I have a couple
> of issues in orca that are fixed by restarting orca, and I don't want
> to have a gigabyte of superfluous info, me reading a file, navigating
> the desktop, etc before whatever the issue is. My other question is if
> there is any key combination I can press, to open a window containing
> developer friendly information about an object? Nvda has something
> like this, you press nvda+f1 when focusd on something, and it'll  open
> up a window containing debug info about an object. Name, type, roll
> type, control info. Sometimes it's a lot of none, or pane, but it is
> there. I'm trying to debug orca on the mate panel, which while it does
> work, often says  "bottom expanded edge panel frame. Bottom expanded
> edge panel. Panel. Name of panel icon" after every tab, but not
> always.  I'm also trying to debug orca's thunderbird and firefox
> support. Joanie is much better at this than I am, but I'm trying to
> handle issues where after a download has begun, orca cannot
> structurally navigate a page unless the page is refreshed. Any
> helpwould be great. I want to help orca if I can. Firefox support has
> gotten much better in the last few weeks, great work all. I want to
> help, instead of writing in with, hi. This doesn't work. Thanks. Etc.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
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