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Re: [orca-list] Is Orca support plug-in architecture ?

I agree that at the end of the day we have access to the tools we need from gnome. 
I do think that for the average person who uses a screenreader, or most any software for that matter, a site 
like what 
NVDA has is a bit easier to navigate than our system, but if you join this list you get a clue as to where to 
go from the 
footer. 
The comparison is hard to make across the board because of the nature of Linux and that of that other OS, 
e.g. we install 
most of our software from repos and do not have to go looking for it on the internet.  Also, windows has 
multiple 
screenreading options, maybe 6 that could be considered more or less viable alternatives for some 
notablepercentage of 
users. We have Orca. Windows programs are mostly very stand alone pieces of work with the exception of 
dot-net and shtuph 
like that where as in Linux we reuse a lot of libs, compilers and the like. 
If plug-ins do become a part of Orca, or if there are ever so many scripts needed or created so tht some 
folks won't want 
all of them on their boxes then we should certainly make sure that they are easy to find and of course 
install. 
--
B.H.
 

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:47:22PM +0200, Peter Vágner wrote:

   Hello,
   Sorry for strong arguments. Using NVDA trac community site is similar
   to using gnome bugzilla and gnome wiki pages.
   So we do already have such resources available for the orca community
   it is just serverd by another applications and tools.
   Git hosting, email list hosting, bug tracker maintenance, community
   wiki pages and possibly even  more is available to orca users and
   developers in exchange to being a part of gnome.
   I don't think recreating this community resources structure with
   different tools would significantly popularize orca.
   Greetings
   Peter
   On 11.09.2014 at 14:50 Alex Midence wrote:

   One thing you must understand is this:


   Even if the plugin support feature you describe is added to Orca, it
   will never be possible for Orca to use NVDA’s plugins.  As a user of
   both screen readers, I can tell you that I would be happy to see that
   kind of feature in Orca with an accompanying community site where such
   plugins can be stored and then downloaded by people interested in using
   them.  I don’t understand why Orca doesn’t have its own project
   website.  The Trac platform has been used to very good effect by the
   NVDA team.  They have a place for milestones, different downloads of
   different versions, forums and a plugin download area.  If you guys
   have never been on it, it’s worth checking out:


   [1]http://www.nvda-project.org


   My two cents,

   Alex M



   From: orca-list [[2]mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of
   Dhairyashil Bhosale
   Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:24 AM
   To: [3]orca-list gnome org; [4]themuso ubuntu com
   Subject: Re: [orca-list] Is Orca support plug-in architecture ?



   Hi All ,
   Hi Luke,
   On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:08:44PM AEST, Dhairyashil Bhosale wrote:
   > It will very useful that orca will support plugin feature i.e add-ons
   , so
   > it will possible that we can add NVDA's plugins in orca if possible,
   so it
   > will enhance Orca's power , feature support list . so if we have to
   make
   > orca support for plugin  architecture, what changes need to do in
   orca, it
   > will affects orca's architecture ?
   > Ok, lets look at this another way. What functionality would you like
   in Orca that NVDA has?

   so Luke , for adding new feature in orca we have to modify or write
   applications script , so for that purpose , it will be very easy that
   we make plugins of that feature and install in orca if orca provides
   plugin architecture . so and we can also use plugin of NVDA in orca if
   possible . it will enhanced orca performance. and for new
   developer/contributor they will make only plugins so no need to modify
   application script .

   Regards,

   Dhairyashil

        2. Re:  Is Orca support plug-in architecture ? (Luke Yelavich)
     Message: 2
     Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:57:49 +1000
     From: Luke Yelavich <[5]themuso ubuntu com>
     To: [6]orca-list gnome org
     Subject: Re: [orca-list] Is Orca support plug-in architecture ?
     Message-ID: <[7]20140911055749 GA5065 acapella>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
     On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:08:44PM AEST, Dhairyashil Bhosale wrote:
     > It will very useful that orca will support plugin feature i.e
     add-ons , so
     > it will possible that we can add NVDA's plugins in orca if
     possible, so it
     > will enhance Orca's power , feature support list . so if we have
     to make
     > orca support for plugin  architecture, what changes need to do in
     orca, it
     > will affects orca's architecture ?
     Ok, lets look at this another way. What functionality would you like
     in Orca that NVDA has?
     Luke
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References

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   2. mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org
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   4. mailto:themuso ubuntu com
   5. mailto:themuso ubuntu com
   6. mailto:orca-list gnome org
   7. mailto:20140911055749 GA5065 acapella
   8. mailto:orca-list gnome org
   9. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
  10. mailto:orca-list gnome org
  11. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
  12. http://live.gnome.org/Orca
  13. http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
  14. http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
  15. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
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