Re: [orca-list] speech rate key bindings only partly work

[Al Sten-Clanton <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

To your question, I found that typing the text of a new message went at 
the slower rate I tried to set, but reading with the arrows pretty much 
disregarded that new rate.  I say "pretty much" because there was one 
brief moment when reading seemed slower as well, but I could not 
reproduce it.

Yes, maybe setting up an additional profile or two may make sense; it's 
at least worth trying.  I'd still want my new key binding to work well 
if possible, since changing the speech rate on the fly is quite helpful.

Al

On 09/05/2014 02:23 PM, B. Henry wrote:
> Interesting, does it stay slow if you go to type a new message? I've not used rate change shortcuts in a long 
> time, and
> very occasionally ever, so do not remember how things worked for me.
> This is worth exploring a bit to see just how it behaves under what conditions.
> Making a 2nd profile can be very fast as you can start out with your cuerrent settings and just changeee the 
> voice rate
>   and perhaps punctuation or something for ebooks.
>
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 02:12:57PM -0400, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > I went into preferences, then to voice, then went to first uppercase and
> > then hyperlinks.  In uppercase and hyperlinks, I then moved over to key
> > bindings and found my modifications there.  I therefore take it that the key
> > bindings covered all voices, though I don't know enough to be positive about
> > that.  (I only have a default profile at this point.)
> >
> > Now, I've just hit the keys to decrease the rate several times.  The rate is
> > quite slow as I type this, but is at the usual rate when I arrow through
> > either your text or mind in this message.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions, though.
> >
> > Al
> > On 09/05/2014 01:28 PM, B. Henry wrote:
> > > Have you reset the rate for both link voice and default voice?
> > > I'm not sure how a voice rate change is supposed to work  when one is dealing with mixed content, i.e. using 
> > > more than one
> > > type of voice.
> > > Is it supposed to speed up or slow down all voices, and do so proportionally if say link voice is set at 90% 
> > > and default
> > > voice at 94%.
> > > Also, perhaps something you are aware of or do not need, but in case you do not know...:
> > > You can speed up espeak so that it can speak faster than the default 410 words per minute, or maybe it is 450 
> > > wwpm now?.
> > > Go in to your speech-dispatcher directory, in ~/.local/share on some systems, /etc on any machine.
> > > In the modules subdirectory you will find espeak.conf.
> > > Starting at line 25 you will finnd the voice rate section. As comments explain values are in words per minute.
> > > You can change any of theese. If you want espeak to speak faster when it is used by speech-dispatcher, e.g. 
> > > when orca is
> > > set to use espeak. If you will be changing the top speed by very much you will probably want to also raise 
> > > the normal rate
> > > also so that the increment for each percent change is not too large. I personally do not like to go over a 6 
> > > wpm step for
> > > each percent, e.g. if I set the top speed at 600wpm I will usually set the normal rate at 300wpm. I also will 
> > > raise the
> > > minimum rate a bit to keep the steps a bit smaller for the slowest half of the range, usually no more than 
> > > 4wpm as even
> > > those new to synth speech do not ever need/want to listen at the default minimum of 880wpm.
> > > Be advisedthat thi will also effect speakup is yooour system uses speechd-up, and any app that uses 
> > > speech-dispatcher for
> > > that matter.
> > > I wish speech-dispatcher would make such a change in the espeak.conf file that ships with it as I find that 
> > > many people
> > > want to work faster than the default max rate, but do not know that it is possible to change this, mluch less 
> > > how to do
> > > it. Even a simple sed script could be sent with it and mentioned in the installation, but many users will have
> > > speech-dispatcher preinstalled and won't get to read such a message, so I say make a small change in the 
> > > default to take
> > > care of some users.
> > > 1 3 6 hundred for min. normal., max. rates would help many users and not make the jumps between each percent 
> > > change too
> > > large to hurt anyone much.
> > > --
> > > B.H.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:13:52PM -0400, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > > > Greetings!  With all the Orca revamping going on, I'm not sure now is the
> > > > best time to bring this up, but it seems to have been a problem for a while.
> > > >
> > > > I created key bindings alt-control-f and alt-control-s to speed up or slow
> > > > down the Orca speech rate respectively.  When I press the key I want
> > > > repeatedly, Orca will say "faster" or "slower" with increasing or decreasing
> > > > speed, as I expect.  Sometimes, as when I'm arrowing through links on a Web
> > > > page, it will speak at the rate I've set.  Other times, such as on other
> > > > parts of a Web page, in the actual text of a Bookshare book I'm reading with
> > > > the Web reader, or in a text document using gedit, Orca will read at the old
> > > > rate regardless of what I've done with my bound keys.
> > > >
> > > > I usually have Orca going as fast as it can, but for reading books and some
> > > > other things I need it slower.  Those seem to be the situations in which the
> > > > key(s) do not work.  Am I missing something here?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Al
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