Re: [orca-list] How to use gnome-tweak tool

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

Back to why so many of us choose Linux, the fact that we can choose!
Please gnome, continue to offer these and more options. I hope the pendulum will swing back towards making 
things more flexible now that they've gotten 
ultra clean just about as far as it can go as a design prenciple. 
Personally I did not use desktop icons for my first couple of years as a Linux-user after seeing that I 
almost never ulsed the huge grid of program 
launchers I accumulated in windowsXP. 
Now I have a year or two of using my Desktop folder as a place for a small group of files and folders that I 
will want very easy acces to that are not 
readily available by default anywhere, i.e. $HOME is there in file managers' places menu, but my Radio folder 
where I have .pls m3u and similar files 
for playing audio streams is only there if I bookmark it which adds to clutter. It's not so large that I need 
to open it with pcmanfm or on the 
commandline. Caja or even nautilus can have it talking reasonably quickly. Then I have a hand full of files 
that I know I'll need to grab information 
from ASAP like some phone number I'll need to give to someone over the phone. Mostly those files are for 
short-term use and can be deleted avoiding 
clutter. 
I have largely gone to keyboard shortcuts for launching the programs I use day in and day out, and I 
configure them the same in all the GUI environments 
I use from fluxbox to mate, XFCE and Unity so that things are not hard to remember. I used to make launchers 
available on panels for the most frequently 
used of apps, but even then it's slower, and with Mate only allowing orca to read stuff from one panel, XFCE 
not having accessible panels at all, etc 
the keyboard shortcut approach has become a no brainer for me. This approach has made me a more efficient 
computer user, and made the adaptation to 
something like fluxbox painless. 
The bottom line however is that this works for me  and would probably be good for a lot of folks, a lot, but 
not everyone, and even if it would be best 
for someone they should have the option to move to this kind of system when they feel like it or never. Also 
having a fallback makes a lot of sense for 
many 
people. Those of us who use multiple keyboard layouts may break our shortcuts when we change layout to write 
in a 2nd or 3rd language.
Some folks come to Linux not because they believe in or care about FOS, and know little about and don't care 
to know much more aboutr what's under the 
hood. They make the move because they are tired of MS, Apple etc. deciding when it's time to change their 
whole computing work flow by trying out a 
"modern" interface that few actually asked for and the old way that they like no longer being offered, or 
only on an under performing old OS version.
Mate was born out of this. IN Linux we can keep doing things how we have been doing them while we try and 
experiment with new or different interfaces, 
and even as I do match the interface to the requirements of a computing session. I switch between fluxbox and 
Unity2D on my vinux4 installation, and 
between Mate and fluxbox when using Arch-Linux.
I could give other sinarios and personal use examples, probably write a nice pamphlett, or even a small book 
on the subject. The gnome project has a lot 
to offer, but if it is going to remain popular it must keep existing personalization options available and 
expand on them
The thing I love about XFCE, love so much it'd be my #1 Desktop if panel access were fixed, is the easy to 
use comprehensive and intuitive customization 
options that mean that usually one doesn't have to do a lot of researching on line and perhaps manually 
editting of configuration files to get things 
how they want. It's just there in the main menus.
The only point that makes this at all on topic for this list is to say thank you to Joanie and other folks 
such as the mate devs who've given us the 
option of using more than one GUI environment, and my greatest hope for accessability for the short to medium 
term as that this trend continues and that 
the few remaining important issues and bugs can get fixed, and hay, to dream; why not a world where kde and 
even sinimun were options for Orca users. 
(hear that Mint devs?)
I just want accessible fluxbox menus and XFCE and LXDE panels...grin.
--
X
B.H.
  

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:38:39PM +0530, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> +1 on mounted folders.
> I also like documents and home on the desktop.
> Happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
>
> On 10/22/2014 08:18 PM, Kyle wrote:
> > According to Alex Midence:
> > # Why on earth do you need desktop icons?  I haven't used them for years.
> >
> > What else are we supposed to do with all that empty space that GNOME by
> > default now renders useless? Seriously though, it's just a personal
> > preference. I for one like having my mounted folders show up on the
> > desktop where I can get to them really easily. But personally, I prefer
> > the MATE interface for my own use as well, which could explain why I
> > still like desktop icons. The great thing is that even in the latest
> > GNOME, we still have options when it comes to where things we use
> > regularly are placed.
> > ~Kyle
> > http://kyle.tk/
>
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