Re: [orca-list] What is latest Orca/arch orca-git question

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

Yes, I'm well aware that one needs to manually check4/install updates for most git packages in arch, but my 
issue is that doing so has not been updating 
orca when reinstalling orca-git, been around two weeks now/and again, this has happened before when I'm 
pretty sure that orca-master changed. 
Actually, I started running my tmp dir as a normal directory, not mounted in ram as is default. This was a 
necesity when using the netbook with only a 
gig of ram as the whole entire available RAM was not enough to build some packages, especially if there was a 
lot of stuff in /tmp. I even came close to 
or did run out of room with 3GB for something shortly after installing arch this last time, so used this 
non-standard configuration on this machine as 
well. 
The downside is that one needs to manuallyl clean out /tmp from time to time. I made an alias to do this, 
well actually one for packer/yaoourt and 
another for mutt. 
It seems that swap space was not used when ram ran out for /tmp, not sure if this behavior can be changed 
with a configuration setting.
This strategy has come in handyin another far too frequent situation, mutt freezes that almost never occured 
for me on other distros. I've had to go in 
to /tmp and retrieve email replies that would have taken a long time to recompose, and probably not get done 
very well 2nd time around as my heart's not 
in it having to repeat the task. Got to remember to clean out mutt files more often though as sometimes 
there's a lot to look through for the message in 
question, got to look up ls sort option to sort by date created or modified and script this recovery tactic.
Anyway, if I do keep my packer folders around it does of course speed things up as far as downloading goes as 
only changed objects are pulled.
Thanks,
--
B.H.

On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 01:00:52PM -0400, Kyle wrote:
> The orca-git PKGBUILD script in the AUR doesn't get its version updated
> unless something changes in the script itself. You will need to
> periodically install the new package manually, i.e.
>
> yaourt -S orca-git
>
> or
>
> packer -S orca-git
>
> depending on which of the above packages you have installed, as
> automatic checking by the AUR helper rarely if ever works for git
> packages. Just as an example, I have opus-git and opus-tools-git in the
> AUR, and I haven't needed to touch them since I put them there. The
> build script for opus-git was made before 1.1, and the build script for
> opus-tools-git was made before 0.9 as I recall. Many commits have been
> made to both git repositories since then, but the build scripts haven't
> changed, so the version showing in the AUR remains the same, and the
> packages never get updated automatically by my chosen AUR helper. To get the
> latest commits, I just reinstall the packages. The drawback to this, as
> you have observed, is the fact that the build process takes a great deal
> of time on slower systems, because the source is downloaded and the
> package built from scratch every time. There is no caching or any other
> magic that can happen to speed up subsequent builds, as the source files
> and build scripts are all downloaded to /tmp, and get cleaned on reboot
> or shutdown. In order to cache things properly and speed up the build
> process the next time, try running just the download command for your
> AUR helper, usually -g. Then you can build the package manually using
> makepkg from a local directory under your $HOME. Hope this helps.
> ~Kyle
> http://kyle.tk/
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