Re: [orca-list] beeps on progress bar updates, thoughts?

From: kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>
To: Haden Pike <haden pike gmail com>
Cc: Orca List <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] beeps on progress bar updates, thoughts?
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:56:48 -0600

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hi
I've come up with what might be a workable plan. I thought about using
sox to generate the progress tones. The only issue is that orca would
then need to adopt sox as a dependency, and I'm hesitant to go this
route without dev approval. Joanie, what do you think of this?  Would
sox being a dependency or optional dependency of orca be acceptable,
or should I try another method?
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 11/21/2014 03:48 PM, kendell clark wrote:


hi Sigh, that was supposed to be "if" it doesn't use windows
specific stuff, and yeah,  this is way over my head. In theory this
shouldn't be too complicated, just generate a tone that follows the
progress bar. The hard part is hooking the two together, and having
it keep up even on low resource systems. I'm not going to write raw
audio data to teh card if I can help it, but do something similar
to what tintin does and have a program generate the tones on the
fly. Any experienced python programmers out there that aren't busy
who can help? Thanks Kendell clark


On 11/21/2014 03:28 PM, Haden Pike wrote:

NVDA is generating a sine wave, which is easy enough to do.  The 
problem is that they are doing it in C++ and calling it using
COM. Additionally, they’re using Windows APIs to write raw audio
data to the sound card.  So yeah, it’s using Windows specific
stuff.  You’d be better off starting from scratch. Haden

On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:16 PM, kendell clark 
<coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:

hi I've started work on this, but it hasn't really gotten
anywhere yet. I've copied the tones.py file from  nvda's git
repository, and will work on trying to port this over to orca, it
doesn't use windows specific featuers. Thanks Kendell clark
assuming

On 11/21/2014 01:17 AM, kendell clark wrote:

hi all I've been wanting this feature for a bit,  but I'm
not sure if anyone else wants it. One feature of nvda I do
like, is the ability to beep on progress bar updates
instead of speaking. I'd like something like this in orca,
but don't know how easy or hard this would be to implement.
It's worth noting that if this does happen, it will
supplement and not replace speaking on progress bar
updates. Does anyone have any opinions on this? I thought
about eventually having a shortcut, probably bound to
orca+p to switch between speaking of progress bar updates,
the default, to beeping, to both beeping and speaking, to
off. This might have to be different on laptop mode
layouts, I'm not sure if orca+p is used for something. Is
there a tutorial on the web somewhere I can look at to
implement? I can write this myself if it's not too 
difficult. I don't know how to call orca settings
functions to add this to the gui preferences, and to bind
it to a keyboard shortcut. Is there good orca documentation
on this? This would, of course, have to be reconfigurable
by the user in orca's keyboard shortcut settings I was
picturing messages such as, speak on progress bar updates,
beep on progress bar updates, beep and speak ... etc, and
finally, no progress bar updates. Thanks Kendell clark

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