Yes, I have used a few apps that use these that were fine, can't remember which right now. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 04:59:04PM -0600, kendell clark wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi Actually they can be accessible, it just depends on who's writing the app. Most have issues though. Thanks Kendell clark On 11/18/2014 04:45 PM, Alex Midence wrote:Not Wxwidgets, please. Not accessible in Linux. -----Original Message----- From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Mike Ray Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:37 PM To: orca-list gnome org Subject: Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players It never ceases to amaze me what a downer a lot of blind folks have on Daisy. I think it is a brilliant standard, err, two standards. If I was writing a Daisy reader for Linux I would use wxWidgets to write a GTK app that would also run on Windows. And a command-line version since the command-line is king. On 18/11/2014 22:08, kendell clark wrote:hi all I thought I'd write in to see if anyone else shared my reasons for wanting a convenient daisy player. I won't talk about the cainteoir thing that's a separate thread. Back when I used windows, I used a program called fs reader to read my daisy books. I don't use windows anymore, but my fiance mellisa still does. If she wants to open a book, she will do: 1. Click the fs reader icon on the desktop. It opens, she press alt+f to open teh file menu, clicks 1, which is the last book she's read. Assuming fs doesn't screw up, which it will do, it opens the book in the exact place she left off, no messing around with firefox, etc. If I want to open a book, I have to: open the file manager at my daisy books folder. Navigate to the folder where my book is, which is not hard. Press enter on the xml file, and wait, the amount of time depends on how large the book is, for firefox to open. Hope orca will read the book, sometimes it won't until I restart firefox. Hope the book is marked up well enough that I can navigate by heading. If I want to mark my place, I set a bookmark with orca, which is really brilliant, by the way. I wish all screen readers had this feature. I have to do this every time I open a book, and hope ff decides to read the book. If the book is extremely large, sometimes it can take up to a minute before orca will read the page. I've gotten used to this, but a program like fs reader, but of course not proprietary, would really be convenient. I could then click on the icon, navigate to teh book list, pick a book, and open it, and have the cursor keep up with the navigation points. It's worth noting that if the book is marked up badly or not at all, a daisy reader won't be any better than firefox, but it will at the very least be faster with orca, and will allow me to keep a list of books. This is more out of convenience than anything. If the application is written well, it will automatically recognize new books and add them to the list, likewise with removing books. Does anyone else share my views? I've seen a lot of blind people who just don't seem that bothered about daisy, and that's fine, but it's the format lots and lots of sites for the blind use, and epub isn't here yet, so I need to be able to handle it, and preferably with a minimum of fiddling. If firefox were not so slow this wouldn't be nearly as important an issue, but it hasn't really improved in this area. This is *not* orca's fault, but rather an issue of speed in firefox itself. This is off topic, so maybe people should email me off list so as not to flood the list? This has little to do with orca other than the fact that we'll be using orca to read the books Thanks Kendell clark _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.htmlThe FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestionsLog bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp-- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed Linux Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi hackers _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.htmlThe FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestionsLog bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. 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