Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players

From: kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>
To: Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>, mike raspberryvi org, orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:59:04 -0600

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hi
Actually they can be accessible, it just depends on who's writing the
app. Most have issues though.
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 11/18/2014 04:45 PM, Alex Midence wrote:

Not Wxwidgets, please.  Not accessible in Linux.



-----Original Message----- From: orca-list
[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Mike Ray Sent:
Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:37 PM To: orca-list gnome org Subject:
Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players


It never ceases to amaze me what a downer a lot of blind folks have
on Daisy.  I think it is a brilliant standard, err, two standards.

If I was writing a Daisy reader for Linux I would use wxWidgets to
write a GTK app that would also run on Windows.  And a command-line
version since the command-line is king.




On 18/11/2014 22:08, kendell clark wrote:

hi all I thought I'd write in to see if anyone else shared my
reasons for wanting a convenient daisy player. I won't talk about
the cainteoir thing that's a separate thread. Back when I used
windows, I used a program called fs reader to read my daisy
books. I don't use windows anymore, but my fiance mellisa still
does. If she wants to open a book, she will do: 1. Click the fs
reader icon on the desktop. It opens, she press alt+f to open teh
file menu, clicks 1, which is the last book she's read. Assuming
fs doesn't screw up, which it will do, it opens the book in the
exact place she left off, no messing around with firefox, etc. If
I want to open a book, I have to: open the file manager at my
daisy books folder. Navigate to the folder where my book is,
which is not hard. Press enter on the xml file, and wait, the 
amount of time depends on how large the book is, for firefox to
open. Hope orca will read the book, sometimes it won't until I
restart firefox. Hope the book is marked up well enough that I
can navigate by heading. If I want to mark my place, I set a
bookmark with orca, which is really brilliant, by the way. I
wish all screen readers had this feature.  I have to do this
every time I open a book, and hope ff decides to read the book.
If the book is extremely large, sometimes it can take up to a
minute before orca will read the page. I've gotten used to this,
but a program like fs reader, but of course not proprietary,
would really be convenient. I could then click on the icon,
navigate to teh book list, pick a book, and open it, and have the
cursor keep up with the navigation points. It's worth noting that
 if the book is marked up badly or not at all, a daisy reader
won't be any better than firefox, but it will at the very least
be faster with orca, and will allow me to keep a list of books.
This is more out of convenience than anything. If the application
is written well, it will automatically recognize new books and
add them to the list, likewise with removing books. Does anyone
else share my views? I've seen a lot of blind people who just
don't seem that bothered about daisy, and that's fine, but it's
the format lots and lots of sites for the blind use, and epub
isn't here yet, so I need to be able to  handle it, and 
preferably with a minimum of fiddling. If firefox were not so
slow this wouldn't be nearly as important an issue, but it hasn't
really improved in this area. This is *not* orca's fault, but
rather an issue of speed in firefox itself. This is off topic, so
maybe people should email me off list so as not to flood the
list? This has little to do with orca other than the fact that
we'll be using orca to read the books Thanks Kendell clark 
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-- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK

The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed
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http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual
is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html

The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

Follow-Ups:
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: B. Henry

References:
- [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: kendell clark
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: Mike Ray
- Re: [orca-list] OT: my reasons for wanting daisy players
  - From: Alex Midence

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