Re: [orca-list] guessing the labels of unlabeled fields, thoughts?

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Hi Kendell.

Orca already does this for web content. The reason it does it for web
content and not for applications is that there are a bazillion web
pages and we cannot fix them all. In contrast, there are not a
bazillion native/desktop app dialogs and, as you pointed out, the risk
of Orca guessing is that Orca might guess wrong. Therefore, please
file bugs against the applications in question.

If the application happens to be a Gtk+ application, tell the
developer that setting the mnemonic widget property (a
non-accessibility thing), should give them the accessibility they need
for free. If it's something else and the application developer simply
cannot figure out what to do, please CC me on the bug or point me to
it so I can comment and perhaps help them to do things properly.

Thanks!
--joanie

On 11/05/2014 06:29 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> hi all This is an issue that has been bugging me for quite a while,
> but I'm not at all sure what to do about it. Unlabeled fields.
> Unlabeled text boxes, check boxes, buttons, tables, etc. I
> personally think orca should try to guess the label of something
> that doesn't have a proper label, but the last thing I want is orca
> getting it wrong, or being like windows, and being way too verbose.
> The proper solution, of course, would be to have app authors give
> their controls proper labels in whatever format orca needs, but as
> we all know, that usually doesn't happen. The reasons are numerous.
> I've only seen a few applications with proper labels to their
> controls, most noteably thunderbird, in it's mail accountsetup
> wizard. Most other apps, though not all, say simply text,
> indicating a field, push button, etc. I'm not a developer, so can't
> do anything about this. Should orca attempt to guess the label of
> something based on the line immediately preceeding the unlabeled
> field? msot of the time if a button is unlabeled, I can flat review
> to the line below and get the labvel of whatever I need, though
> this isn't always the case. It has no sort of video scraper, so
> this wouldn't work. Anyone else want to chip in? Thanks Kendell
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