Re: [orca-list] conversion of ubuntu 14.04 iso image file to zip

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

I've only recently learned that such is possible.  Complexity is introduced
by the presence of UEFI.  Still and all, this is not the point.  Your
average Linux user will not be versed in such techniques.  Managing files,
the odd script or two, working with MYSQL and Apace, sure but, messing with
the boot loader is not something I do without great trepidation.  Your
typical newbie windows migrant which Ubuntu tends to attract certainly won't
be versed in this sort of thing at all.  Whether or not someone can use a
live cd to mount the hard drive and reinstall Grub is not the point, though.
The point is that this sort of thing should not happen in the first place.
An LTS is no place for beta versions of software that is as utterly mission
critical as the boot loader that makes it possible to start your very
machine.  I for one am just very glad that I was able to find knowledgeable
people on this list who could point me at a solution.  My deepest thanks to
Kelly and Luke.

-----Original Message-----
From: covici ccs covici com [mailto:covici ccs covici com] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:45 PM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: 'D. A. H.'; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] conversion of ubuntu 14.04 iso image file to zip

But can't you boot from a gmrl cd, which you can certainly make talk using
speakup and then you can mount your root and fix whatever is broke?

Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:

> My friend, we have concensus.  I am tremendously disappointed in them 
> for having done this and wishing very badly that I had left my system 
> alone at
> 13.10 which was working very very well.  All I did was a standard 
> do-release-upgrade followed a week or so later by an apt-get dist-upgrade.
> After the dist-upgrade, it asked me to reboot which I did.  I haven't 
> been able to get it to boot ever since and that was two weeks ago 
> today.  It launches straight into the bios  and I am reduced to using 
> my six-year-old son as a talking screen reader.  He does it in 
> exchange for gummy bears and
> 30 minutes worth of Minion Rush on my iPhone.  Quite the little
negotiator!
> Alex M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of D. A. H.
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 12:19 PM
> To: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] conversion of ubuntu 14.04 iso image file to 
> zip
>
> I'd call a broken grub an urgent, show-stopping bug, especially in a 
> LTS release; Canonical, what were you thinking!
>
>
>
> On 05/30/2014 12:51 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> > It saddens me to say it but, I am inclined to agree.  Just to give 
> > an example of such an issue which I feel should never ever happen to 
> > you on a long-term/stable release, there are lots of people who are 
> > having issues just booting their system, for instance.  Some genius 
> > decided to update
> grub
> > to a beta version from 2.02 and it hauled off and just broke all 
> > kinds of stuff for lots of folks.  There's argument back and forth 
> > on whether or
> not
> > to declare it an urgen bug or not.  I'm hoping it's getting a bit 
> > more tlc
>
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