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Re: [orca-list] help migrate a windows user to linux?

I'm flying blind as it were more or less, but I've heard that gnome-mud is both accessible and pretty good. I 
did install 
mush-client on windows but never used it to play a game, and have never done any gaming with anything other 
than tintin, 
so...
If she can't type http, shoot her.
There was a daisy reader called something with daisy that I never tried as I've seldom used daisy books that 
was posted on 
the Vinux list maybe 3 years ago. I probably have a copy of the tarball somewhere, but don't think I ever 
built it, and 
have no idea as to what it does well or poorly.
Back to the web-address thing, you could make a one letter alias that would expand to firefox, but if you 
included http I 
think it'd put a space between firefox http:// and what you typed next, or maybe I've not had enough coffee. 
Or, perhaps 
firefox handles addresses this way as if they were typed in to the addressbar, as does chrome for that matter 
and 
automatically includes the http://.
I do not know what type of addresses she wants to open this way as if they come from email or formatted 
documents she can 
just enter on em and open em up in the default gui browser. If they are in plain txt documents just copy and 
past em in to 
the terminal and they'll have the http:// anyway. 
If they are the same few addresses she uses frequently and finds getting them from book marks files too 
troublesome, (NO 
comment here needed), besides making a very small favorites folder inside the main bookmarks folder, i.e. I 
have one where 
I have groups I admin, and a handful of sites that don't neatly fit in to my main categories but are 
important to me... 
then again, why not make bash aliases e.g. alias win-junkies="firefox http://www.windowsjunkies-anonymous.net'
Lastly, if there are any differencies perhaps try similar with chrome. I think I just read that some online 
apps, or all 
of them in current gnome releases use or at least default to using chrome backend due to something that is 
easier or works 
better. Sorry I was just reading release notes or similar and can't be more specific.
And yes, as officil support will last till 2020, win7 is still a very viable option, but if she's got to make 
a switch it 
would be the ideal time to go on and move to Linux if you can make it happen in a way that is not more 
painful for you 
than the alternatives. 
You should point out to her that being mentally inflexible is likely to make her much more likely to get an 
earlier onset 
to demencia...sure, not likely to put the fear of God in to most folks under 40, but every bit of truth that 
you have at 
your disposal may come in handy at some point.
We should take this off list probably unless others feel it should stay in plain view as it's really not at 
all about 
orca, or even accessibility for the most part.
You know where to find me at any rate, will try and be orn IRC tomorrow if not tonight.

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B.H.
 
 

 
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 02:29:17AM -0500, kendell clark wrote:

hi all
I have no idea if this is the right place to post this, and if not I apologize, but it's the only place I 
could think 
of. I'm trying to get my fiance, mellisa, to switch from win7 to linux, but she has refused until she can 
use most of 
the same apps for the same things. I'm writing to get advice on what to do, and possibly information on 
apps that are 
close to, if not identical to what she's using now. Her major hang ups are: 1, a daisy reader. You can 
currently open 
books up in firefox by pressing enter on the xml file, but it's not very intuitive, her words not mine, and 
she wants a 
daisy book app similar to fs reader. There are only 2 that I know of, one firefox addon called buttercup 
reader and an 
abandoned app called emerson. Emerson won't build, and I've had no luck getting anyone interested in either 
maintaining 
it or writing a new one. 2, mud client. There are quite a few for linux, but the best is probably tintin. 
The problem 
there is she's used to mush, which has a nice friendly gui, whereas tintin doesn't. She's also used to lots 
of nice 
sounds for all the spells, etc, which tintin has, but again, it's command line. I've thought about trying 
wine, but 
wine has no accessibility infrastructure that I know of, so unless I can get a windows screen reader 
running under wine 
that's not an option.  I thought about writing some sort of 
desktop file that would launch tintin in a terminal connected to her mud of choice, but orca's terminal 
support needs an 
overhall. It can sometimes skip entire lines of text, or just a few words. 3, this one is really tricky. In 
windows, she 
can just open up the run dialog with windows+r and type in www.site.com. This is not currently possible in 
any desktop 
that I know of except mate. But in mate, you have to type http://www.site.com, which she insists isn't good 
enough. Does 
anyone know how in the world I could fix this? I've tried explaining why linux works the way it does, but 
she's not that 
interested, insisting I make it work as much like windows as possible. Her last is ie, but she says she's 
willing to 
learn firefox. I've taken considerable time customizing orca's shortcuts to make them as jaws and nvda like 
as I can, 
but without a daisy reader and mud client she's holding back. Sorry for the long email, but I'm at the end 
of my rope. 
SHe doesn't want a mac, and she doesn't want win 8, so linux is her only option when she gets a new 
computer. 

Thanks
Kendell clark

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