[orca-list] Last Pass [Was: Flat Review is a Mess in Firefox]

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

I have recently started using Last Pass, so am very interested in
strategies for using it successfully.

But, it seems to me the underlying problem is almost a moral issue.
Here's a company whose business leverages the accessibility framework on
every platform Last Pass runs on, yet their own products support
accessibility very poorly. They ought be ashamed.

So, my suggestion is a concerted campaign, starting with bug filings for
fundamental web coding failures like unlabeled buttons, or buttons not
in the keyboard TAB order. Depending on their response, we could
escalate from there.

Thoughts anyone?

Janina

B. Henry writes:
> Firstly, the easiest way to use last pass is from the contextual menus accessed with shift f10 or the menu 
> key. There you 
> should find a couple entries, plus log-in to last pass if you are not already logged in. I think there may 
> be some 
> keyboard shortcuts as well, but I've never used them if they exist. YOu find both formfill items and 
> password and user 
> name items in the two submenus, as well as the log-in I mentioned. This is not the same for chrome btw, but 
> you use the 
> same basic process to get at last pass options. 
> You do usually see some history stuff with flat review, and one extentsion I use is accessed by flat review 
> as well. I'm 
> not sure if there are artifacts left from previously visited pages in some cases. 
> YOu do not ever see the whole webpage in most cases/sites, but there are times where some buttons are 
> accessed via flat 
> review that can't be pressed with spacebar or enter. 
> I downloaded firefox29 a couple days ago, but have not yet tested it. I will likely continue to use firefox 
> 24 as there's 
> an extension I find very useful that is broken starting with firefox26, and the patch that is available did 
> not appear to 
> work at all for me. 
> I do not know if the rerouting you mention has ever been part of orca/firefox functionality. Have you done 
> the things you 
> can't do with firefox29 on earlier versions, and if so which ones?
> Regards, 
> --
> B.H.
>
>
> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 06:10:52AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > I don't know if this personal error or what but while running firefox
> > 29.0 (I thought I would give it a try), flat review hardly works for
> > me. First off, when I press orca+k to read the current word it always
> > says "File" which would be the first item of the menu bar. If I press
> > orca+9 to route the mouse pointer to the current position, it seems to
> > have no effect. I would have expected to have the flat review pointer
> > be moved down to the current item focused by moving the arrow keys and
> > normal orca reading of the web page. In fact, it looks like flat
> > review is showing stuff from a previously visited page.
> >
> > All and all, it is a total mess for me. What I'm actually trying to do
> > is get to the LastPass tool bar at top of the page and I cannot even
> > find that now. It was hit and miss in the past but now impossible to
> > access it.
> >
> > Am I missing something here or should I fall back to an older version
> > of firefox yet still?
> >
> > Oh, I'm using a master build of Orca from around May 5th and latest
> > packages from Arch Linux.
> >
> > Any ideas?
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