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Re: [orca-list] Fluxbox with Orca

Nice, for you anyway...lol.
at least you got me off my backside to add the orca & line to my startup file which I kept forgetting, but 
while zenity 
will announce info text no problem, I still get no orc feedback from any of the programs I listed in my last 
message as 
not being accessible. I've not tried all of them, but if 4 don't work I reckon none will.
I tried starting firefox just to see if it would make a difference now even though it had not in the past, 
and even with 
it running same thing. The programs that work for me work, and mostly very well but the ones that have not 
work are still 
silent except for a startup sound that I get with some when they load. If you get speech with tprograms in my 
nogo list 
I'm at a loss. Are you running 64 or 32bit arch?
Thanks, and using zenity for some things is a brilliant idea. Hope it will work for fluxbox menus.
Thanks.
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B.H.



On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:53:18PM -0400, Storm Dragon wrote:

Hi,
The best result comes from having the GTK_MODULES line in your .xinitrc. I also have the .gtkrc-2.0 but I'm 
not sure what good it does. Interestingly enough, zenity seems to have the same effect as firefox but with 
staying power. Add:
orca&
zenity --info --text "Welcome to Fluxbox"&
in your .fluxbox/startup file and any program that works in mate, from my experience, will now work in 
fluxbox. Some of the programs seem to take unusual amounts of time to open. I am currently in the midst of 
writing zenity replacements for the run dialog and menu. I'll post again when it's done.
Thanks
Storm
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:11:09AM -0500, Burt Henry wrote:

This is indeed odd sounding behavior.
I Have that export gtk module line in three places I realized, and know that I don't need them all. One of 
these days I'll
remove all but one file and see which gives the best results, or if any of them will do the same job.
Perhaps you have more time right now and want to do such an experiment. I have the atk-bridge line in a 
file i
/etc/profile.d/, in my ~/.xinitrc file(s), (I just swap them out when I want to switch between mate, xfce 
and fluxbox, so
I export the gtk module in all of them), and finally on someone's suggestion made a ~/.gtkrc2.0 file.
Funny, I was just making a list of programs that I could interact with using orca and those that I could 
not use.
I'll put that below, but first I want to ask about a specific program, pidgin. It starts, and as I have 
the skype plug-in
turned on at the moment it even launches skype. I get my pidgin sounds, and the skype launch sound. I can 
interact with
skype via bitlbee/skyped or clisk, but skcmd isn't working for me from consoles even after exporting the 
display as I do
successfully on Ubuntu&Vinux. Terminal emulators do not speak for me, so skcmd is dead in the water for me 
with fluxbox on
arch anyway.  Anyway, pidgin doesn't talk, nor do I get feedback when a skype call is in progress when 
skype should be in
focus.
Have you repeated that firefox experiment? Again, for me anyway, what works works, and what doesn't 
doesn't so far.
Below I'll put my list of what is working here and what is not with the first list being programs that are 
accessible with
orca and then the "nogos" below.
And one very bright star that in and of itself makes fluxbox worth looking at, wireshark. I've not 
actually tried to do
much with wireshark on mate and xfce, and I do think itorca is more responsive with these than say with 
unity on slower
machines, but I was truly ipressed with how there was no annoying latency when navigating through 
wireshark screens while
the program was capturing packets. Things were painfully slow at times when I tried this using unity 2d. 
Even if fluxbox
accessibility never gets to where I'd really like it to be it'll remain in my toolkit for times when I 
need to get a GUI
program working as quickly as possible, i.e. text-based browsers won't work for something I need to do, 
andusing wireshark
so smoothly is really nice.
To be clear I've not put many of the programs that I say are accessible with orca in fluxbox through their 
paces. They
start, let me navigate through menus and generally display things as I"m used to in Gnome, Mate, Unity or 
XFCE. That being
said I've used other programs more and have not noticed trends toward instability or unexpected 
preformance.
This message is long enough, so I'll save a few of questions and comments for a possible follow up. To be 
fair,  a
couple other high-functioning window managers are supposed to be somewhat useable more or less like 
fluxbox,
but I think fluxbox may be the cream of the crop.

evince
firefox
gedit
google-chrome
mumble
rhythmbox
rsgames
teamtalk
totem
tor-browser
transmission-gtk
vlc
wireshark


nogos:
caja
clamtk
deluge
galculator
gimp
gparted
gpoddr
libreoffice
mangler
mate-terminal
mate-volume-control
mousepad
pcmanfm
pidgin
thunar
xfce4-terminal
xfce4-mixer
zenmap
--
B.H.



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