Re: [orca-list] Fluxbox with Orca

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

This is indeed odd sounding behavior.
I Have that export gtk module line in three places I realized, and know that I don't need them all. One of 
these days I'll 
remove all but one file and see which gives the best results, or if any of them will do the same job. 
Perhaps you have more time right now and want to do such an experiment. I have the atk-bridge line in a file 
i 
/etc/profile.d/, in my ~/.xinitrc file(s), (I just swap them out when I want to switch between mate, xfce and 
fluxbox, so 
I export the gtk module in all of them), and finally on someone's suggestion made a ~/.gtkrc2.0 file. 
Funny, I was just making a list of programs that I could interact with using orca and those that I could not 
use. 
I'll put that below, but first I want to ask about a specific program, pidgin. It starts, and as I have the 
skype plug-in 
turned on at the moment it even launches skype. I get my pidgin sounds, and the skype launch sound. I can 
interact with 
skype via bitlbee/skyped or clisk, but skcmd isn't working for me from consoles even after exporting the 
display as I do 
successfully on Ubuntu&Vinux. Terminal emulators do not speak for me, so skcmd is dead in the water for me 
with fluxbox on 
arch anyway.  Anyway, pidgin doesn't talk, nor do I get feedback when a skype call is in progress when skype 
should be in 
focus. 
Have you repeated that firefox experiment? Again, for me anyway, what works works, and what doesn't doesn't 
so far. 
Below I'll put my list of what is working here and what is not with the first list being programs that are 
accessible with 
orca and then the "nogos" below.
And one very bright star that in and of itself makes fluxbox worth looking at, wireshark. I've not actually 
tried to do 
much with wireshark on mate and xfce, and I do think itorca is more responsive with these than say with unity 
on slower 
machines, but I was truly ipressed with how there was no annoying latency when navigating through wireshark 
screens while 
the program was capturing packets. Things were painfully slow at times when I tried this using unity 2d. Even 
if fluxbox 
accessibility never gets to where I'd really like it to be it'll remain in my toolkit for times when I need 
to get a GUI 
program working as quickly as possible, i.e. text-based browsers won't work for something I need to do, 
andusing wireshark 
so smoothly is really nice.
To be clear I've not put many of the programs that I say are accessible with orca in fluxbox through their 
paces. They 
start, let me navigate through menus and generally display things as I"m used to in Gnome, Mate, Unity or 
XFCE. That being 
said I've used other programs more and have not noticed trends toward instability or unexpected preformance.
This message is long enough, so I'll save a few of questions and comments for a possible follow up. To be 
fair,  a 
couple other high-functioning window managers are supposed to be somewhat useable more or less like fluxbox, 
but I think fluxbox may be the cream of the crop. 

evince
firefox
gedit
google-chrome
mumble
rhythmbox
rsgames
teamtalk
totem
tor-browser
transmission-gtk
 vlc
wireshark


nogos:
caja
clamtk
deluge
galculator
gimp
gparted
gpoddr
libreoffice
mangler
mate-terminal
mate-volume-control
mousepad
pcmanfm
pidgin
thunar
xfce4-terminal
xfce4-mixer
zenmap
--
B.H.