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Re: [orca-list] Fluxbox with Orca

I hear Fluxbox even looks nice too.  Important if you have sighted people sharing your home with you and you 
will be sharing the machine.  I'm all for the eye candy as long as it doesn't mess with my ability to 
interact with the desktop and get what I need to get done.  

Alex M


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From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of B. Henry
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:17 PM
To: Storm Dragon; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Fluxbox with Orca

Just a little update:
I set up a keyboard shortcut to run caja, (the mate fork of nautilus for those not familiar with mate), and 
after closing the window the desktop icons stick. 
If anyone could try nautilus filemanager with fluxbox to be sure this is also the case there it would be 
interesting.
Fluxbox is working great now that I put the export lines where they needed to be. This is indeed the rockin 
answer for those who need or want a truly very small footprint solution to graphical interfaceing.
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 05:06:03PM -0400, Storm Dragon wrote:

Howdy,
Here you go.
Storm
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 01:44:57PM -0500, Burt Henry wrote:

Could you send me a copy of your output from env?
I want to compare with mine, but this is not the command I'm looking 
for I don't think. Something showed me a ton of output as I recall, more than one screen for sure, and 
this is maybe giving me a dozen lines, less than 20 anyway.
Want to compare yours to mine anyway.
I'm really quite confused at the moment.


On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 02:13:10PM -0400, Storm Dragon wrote:

Hi,
I completely forgot that you could see all the environmental variables like that. Thanks a ton for 
reminding me. Unfortunately, I didn't find anything obvious in there. I did discover that firefox isn't 
necessary after all, a small zenity script does the same thing, and the accessibility stays after the 
dialog is closed. I'm almost wondering if I just didn't wait long enough for stuff to open yesterday, 
maybe I'll try without the dialog next time.
Thanks
Storm
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 06:26:37PM +0100, Mike Ray wrote:


After launching FF, how about doing 'env > filename' in a terminal 
and having a look at the environment variables to see if there's 
something that looks like it might have been exported by FF?

On 29/06/2014 05:36, Storm Dragon wrote:

Hi,
I got interested in fluxbox after setting it up on an old computer 
that needed something really light to provide the GUI. I was 
impressed with the ease of use offered by Fluxbox as well as its 
speed. So, I installed it on my computer and tried to get it working with Orca.
In the .~/.fluxbox directory, I edited the following files:
init
I added:
export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge and in startup:
orca&
When I launched fluxbox, I got the "screenreader on" message. I 
was afraid that was going to be it though, because nothing else worked.
the menu you get from right clicking on the desktop doesn't read, 
the
alt+f2 box to launch applications doesn't read, and the programs I
tried like Pluma text editor and pidgin instant messenger did not work.
I was on the verge of giving up and fileing it away as a lost 
cause, but then I decided to try Firefox, just to see what would happen.
Firefox came up and was accessible, with the same weird behavior 
it's been having for the last several releases, but it did talk, 
and interestingly enough, any application I opened after that, 
pluma, pidgin, etc, works perfectly. So, for now, I added firefox& 
to my startup file and now, when orca comes up, and firefox 
starts, everything else I launch is accessible.
So, after this here long winded rambling is done, my question is ...
What does Firefox do to make everything just work? I'm assuming it 
exports a variable or something? I tried launching it from a 
terminal to see if it would tell me, but I just get some warnings 
about setting gnome::program failing.
Oh, and actually I have the export GTK_MODULES stuff in my 
.xinitrc, not in .fluxbox/init.
I would really like to get this working without having FF in my 
startup file, but even with it there, it's still lightning fast starting.
Thanks for any help/responses
Storm


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XDG_VTNR=7
XDG_SESSION_ID=6
VMAIL_HTML_PART_READER=elinks -dump
SHELL=/bin/bash
TERM=xterm
WINDOWID=8388637
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
USER=storm
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
PAGER=vimpager
DIALOGOPTS=--visit-items
VMAIL_BROWSER=elinks
MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/b
in/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl:/usr/lib/surfraw:/home/storm/.gem/ru
by/1.9.1/bin:/home/storm/bin:/usr/lib/surfraw
MAIL=/var/mail/storm
PWD=/home/storm
EDITOR=leafpad
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
CSSTRNGS=/usr/share/locale
RAWWAVE_PATH=/usr/lib/stk/rawwaves
OPCODE6DIR=/usr/lib/csound/plugins64
SHLVL=3
XDG_SEAT=seat0
HOME=/home/storm
LOGNAME=storm
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-f2DLqNkcpS,guid=168ba
7e96ab5f46a45a8074c53b04c87
BROWSER=firefox
DISPLAY=:0.0
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
SOX_OPTS=--temp /home/storm/tmp
XAUTHORITY=/home/storm/.Xauthority
COLORTERM=mate-terminal
_=/usr/bin/env




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