Hi, For those using the light weight stuff, you have probably noticed their run dialogs, usually bound to alt+f2, aren't accessible with Orca. In the case of ratpoison, it's c-t !. Anyway, I wrote a small zenity script that is accessible of course to replace the run dialog. It will keep a history of your last 50 commands and you can move up and down through the list and select whatever you want. If you know what you want isn't in the list, just press enter on the first item, type what you want, then tab to open and press enter. If the item you are trying to launch isn't a program, it will open caja in your home directory. I know, that part needs a bit of work. If you're interested, it's at http://stormdragon.us/priv/zrun I'm guessing there will be bugs, but it works pretty well so far from what I can tell. I bound it to c-t r in rat poison and use it all the time. HTH Storm On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 07:16:42PM -0500, Burt Henry wrote:
Just a little update: I set up a keyboard shortcut to run caja, (the mate fork of nautilus for those not familiar with mate), and after closing the window the desktop icons stick. If anyone could try nautilus filemanager with fluxbox to be sure this is also the case there it would be interesting. Fluxbox is working great now that I put the export lines where they needed to be. This is indeed the rockin answer for those who need or want a truly very small footprint solution to graphical interfaceing. -- On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 05:06:03PM -0400, Storm Dragon wrote:Howdy, Here you go. Storm On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 01:44:57PM -0500, Burt Henry wrote: >Could you send me a copy of your output from env? >I want to compare with mine, but this is not the command I'm looking for I don't think. Something showed me a ton of >output as I recall, more than one screen for sure, and this is maybe giving me a dozen lines, less than 20 anyway. >Want to compare yours to mine anyway. >I'm really quite confused at the moment. > > >On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 02:13:10PM -0400, Storm Dragon wrote: >>Hi, >>I completely forgot that you could see all the environmental variables like that. Thanks a ton for reminding me. Unfortunately, I didn't find anything obvious in there. I did discover that firefox isn't necessary after all, a small zenity script does the same thing, and the accessibility stays after the dialog is closed. I'm almost wondering if I just didn't wait long enough for stuff to open yesterday, maybe I'll try without the dialog next time. >>Thanks >>Storm >>On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 06:26:37PM +0100, Mike Ray wrote: >>> >>>After launching FF, how about doing 'env > filename' in a terminal and >>>having a look at the environment variables to see if there's something >>>that looks like it might have been exported by FF? >>> >>>On 29/06/2014 05:36, Storm Dragon wrote: >>>>Hi, >>>>I got interested in fluxbox after setting it up on an old computer >>>>that needed something really light to provide the GUI. I was impressed >>>>with the ease of use offered by Fluxbox as well as its speed. So, I >>>>installed it on my computer and tried to get it working with Orca. >>>>In the .~/.fluxbox directory, I edited the following files: >>>>init >>>>I added: >>>>export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge >>>>and in startup: >>>>orca& >>>>When I launched fluxbox, I got the "screenreader on" message. I was >>>>afraid that was going to be it though, because nothing else worked. >>>>the menu you get from right clicking on the desktop doesn't read, the >>>>alt+f2 box to launch applications doesn't read, and the programs I >>>>tried like Pluma text editor and pidgin instant messenger did not work. >>>>I was on the verge of giving up and fileing it away as a lost cause, >>>>but then I decided to try Firefox, just to see what would happen. >>>>Firefox came up and was accessible, with the same weird behavior it's >>>>been having for the last several releases, but it did talk, and >>>>interestingly enough, any application I opened after that, pluma, >>>>pidgin, etc, works perfectly. So, for now, I added firefox& to my >>>>startup file and now, when orca comes up, and firefox starts, >>>>everything else I launch is accessible. >>>>So, after this here long winded rambling is done, my question is ... >>>>What does Firefox do to make everything just work? I'm assuming it >>>>exports a variable or something? I tried launching it from a terminal >>>>to see if it would tell me, but I just get some warnings about setting >>>>gnome::program failing. >>>>Oh, and actually I have the export GTK_MODULES stuff in my .xinitrc, >>>>not in .fluxbox/init. >>>>I would really like to get this working without having FF in my >>>>startup file, but even with it there, it's still lightning fast starting. >>>>Thanks for any help/responses >>>>Storm >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>orca-list mailing list >>>>orca-list gnome org >>>>https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >>>>Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. >>>>The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html >>>>The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions >>>>Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org >>>>Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Michael A. 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