Re: [orca-list] Opening Firefox Before Starting Orca...

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

I'm with Burt on this one.  I'm sure this is normal behavior.  If Orca's not
running, thee's no reason for Firefox to waste cycles on reporting events to
at-spi.  I understand that this sort of thing results in decreased
performance in some applications.  This is why some people have created
Gnome-shell extensions specifically targeted at removing accessibility
support on a system.  It's one of the first ones to appear in the
Gnome-shell extensions page.  

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/112/remove-accesibility/

A bit disturbing to think people find it so inconvenient that their system
is universally accessible.  Wish there was something that could be done
about that.  

Alex M

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of B. Henry
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:06 AM
To: Robert Cole; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Opening Firefox Before Starting Orca...

I do not know the exact chain of events that causes this, but I'm not
surprised, and would suspect this is not the only program that interacts
this way with the accessability stack and thus orca. 
In windows some programs recognize tht one is running a screenreader when
this is the case and present a different interface to the user by default. 
While this is interesting, it is hardly a problem not only because one can
restart the browser, but because anyone who really must use a screenreader
won't just start it for firefox, much less after they've gone to a webpage,
and for that matter after seeing this once they can remember to start orca
first...lol.


On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:46:03AM -0800, Robert Cole wrote:
>         Hello, everyone!
>
> I do not know if this has previously been reported, but I have noticed 
> that if I open an instance of Firefox before starting Orca, Orca does 
> not seem to be  able to read anything in that instance of Firefox. If 
> I close the previously opened instance of Firefox and then open a new 
> instance, Orca is able to read just fine.
>
> This is taking place in GNOME Shell 3.10 on Fedora 20.
>
> Steps to Reproduce:
>
> 1. From the gNOME Shell Desktop, with Orca turned off, press ALT+F2.
> 2. type in "firefox", omitting the quotation marks, and then press 
> ENTER to launch Firefox.
> 3. Press ALT+Super+S to activate Orca.
> 4. Try to navigate your homepage with Orca.
>
> In my case, there is absolutely no speech in Firefox whatsoever.
>
> If Orca is running before Firefox is opened, all is well.
>
> Is this a known issue (if it is even an issue)? If not, can anyone 
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks, and take care!
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