You make a compelling case for an interface I do not particularly care for myself. A few points, questions and a partial retraction disclaimer of my own words...lol First one can fall in to all three categories. Hotkeys, keybindings to launch programs! This is my life's blood when it comes to efficient GUI use. I used to have a couple of groups of launchers on side panels back in gnome2daze, small and organized groups that I could get to very quickly. I had already started transitioning to keyboard shortcuts by the time I started using unity, and kept those and added to them as I went toawards lighter weight GUI environments. Of course one can't hav a keybinding to launch every GUI app that one will ever use, but I suspect most folks are more or less like me in that they use 10% of their programs 90% of the time. That's a bit high perhaps, but not much. Do you not bother with setting up custom keybindings? The reason I'm not so in love with search-driven GUIs is that I've had limited to very limited hardware most of the time. If I'd had a machine that would pretty much instantly give me my result from typing a few chars of an app name I'd certainly have spent more time using those searchboxes, but add in a second of delay and the speed advantageof typing a word instead of arrowing is gone. I'd really like to do a study to see just where the break points are. I know that the classic-menu indicator I tried with latest Ubuntu/Vinux made so damned many submenus with most apps showing up on two or three, some even more as I recall, that it was a nightmare to navigate, and that was on a heavy interface, so not the goodness of usilng something light like xfce or mate. I actually do not dislike gnome itself, but do very much dislike the way so many core gnome aps' menus have gone minimalist with missing functions or long lists for all but the ones that the powers that develop decide that I'll need that are not efficient to navigate at all. Why does a desktop window on screen bother you as a screenreader user? I can see that it can be either a comfort, or a distraction to a sighted user. For me it's just a relatively uncluttered little space where I keep one folder and a small handful of files at the moment, the kind of stuff I want to get at in a second or two when on the phone or talking to someone who I'll only have a minute with that can't be wasted looking in a cluttered directory, and having it always there does save me another second or two. I use pcmanfm for most filemanagment because of it's impressive speed, even on low-end hardware, but don't always have a window open. In gnome's defense it's actually quite thrifty in memory usage compared with unity or win7, (or kde from what I read), and doesn't compare that unfavorably to Mate actually in my experience. Of course it'll use a good bit more processor at times because of the indexing and searching. And as for what I use most of the time, even though I don't really have to any more, Fluxbox! Fluxbox mostly Rocks. I'm hoping to have something shareable so that others won't have to do much tinkering, and Linux novices won't have to wory about permissions and copying scripts and config files in to place. There are still a few bits that I do have to work around that really should be fixable, but once setup it's already a good enough system for a non power user to be productive on pretty slow-end hardware. -- Burt On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:37:51PM -0600, Alex Midence wrote:
Forgot to mention what I use in my prior response: I use Ubuntu 14.04 but with the gnome3 and Vinx PPA's enabled for the latest gnome and accessibilty experience. I don't use Unity. I use Gnome Shell 3.12 with Orca 3.14. It works quite nicely. Once you get used to it, you will find other desktops not as efficient or easy to use at times. For instance, I tried the Gnome-classic interface the oter day just to see if I still remembered how to use it and I absolutely hated it. Using an applications menu to find what you want and then having your system cluttered up with a desktop window is so last decade. In shell, you hit the super key, type the name of what you want to launch and boom!, it finds it for you and you just hit enter and there you go. Grab the gnome-tweaks package, enable the places menu in the top bar, get a prefered sound theme and you're all set. Alex M On 12/19/2014 06:48 PM, norman wrote:Hello. I'm wondering, What linux distros do people like and why? I'd like to use the unity version of ubuntu 14.04 or 14.10 but apparently nobody knows when or even if we can expect a fix for the dash bug. I've used vinux 4.0 and like it for the most part but it is a little dated for me. I'd like to use vinux 5 but don't want a pre release version of any distro on that box. This brings me to the question of what else is out there? preferably something based on the ubuntu / debian archetecture. I'd like something that can run the latest versions of orca and firefox because i've found that the browsing experience is a little lacking on vinux. Thoughts? _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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