Re: [orca-list] Automatic focus mode as a result of structural navigation is now configurable

["B. Henry" <burt1iband gmail com>]

No, I suck!
I know that indentation is important, vital in python, and doing it wrong can break otherwise perfect code. I 
don't know 
exactly when and how much things need to be indented, but suspected none as only 2 or three spaces is not 
what I've seen,  
e.g. I've always thought 4 space indentation was standard, and it was doubled or trippled for things that 
were part of 
functions and blocks or what ever they should be called.
I should have experimented more, but was unsure, sleepy, and may have left in a space when I thought I'd 
gotten rid of 
them all once.
Will test before  mailing this.
Alls's well with indentation removed. 
So, for future refference should there never be indentation for import lines in .py files, or does this 
depend on context?
Thanks, and sorry for not having tested more before writing, although maybe someone else was having or would 
have had the 
same issue.


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:51:53AM -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Argh, this is my fault. There is indentation in the rest of the message
> for the bulleted items. And the two lines which need to be added to the
> orca-customizations.py are, in my announcement email, indented because
> of that formatting; not because they should be indented in your
> customizations. I suck.
>
> So to be clear: As Peter already pointed out in his response:
>
> 1. Indentation is significant in Python.
> 2. Unexpected and/or inconsistent indentation makes Python spit up.
> 3. You do not (not not) want any indentation for the lines in question.
>
> import orca.settings
> orca.settings.structNavTriggersFocusMode = False
>
> As I just wrote above, with no indentation, is what you should add.
>
> I am really, really sorry about that. I should have known better.
> --joanie
>
> On 08/12/2014 12:57 AM, B. Henry wrote:
> > I tried both adding the two lines you give in the below email to an existing customizations.py file that 
> > worksfine, 
> > andmaking a new one with only these two lines. 
> > Neither will allow orca to start here. Ii even tried switching desktops in case ;my fluxbox wasn't 
> > handling something.
> >     import orca.settings
> >    orca.settings.structNavTriggersFocusMode = False
> > Is indentation critical here, if so how much?
> > If not, any ideas as to why this isn't working for me?
> > thanks,
> > --
> > B.H.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:20:56AM -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Hey all.
> > >
> > > As the subject states, automatic triggering of focus mode as a result of
> > > structural navigation is now configurable. Things to note:
> > >
> > > * The default behavior is to trigger focus mode. The reason for this
> > >   choice is that prior to this feature, that is what happened: Pressing
> > >   'e' to move to an entry disabled structural navigation. So having
> > >   it enabled by default makes the new user experience consistent with
> > >   the old one and is less disruptive/confusing to novice users.
> > >
> > > * The option has not yet been added to the GUI or the documentation.
> > >   Again, until we sort all this stuff out, things are subject to change.
> > >   But my plan is to make the final settings, once agreed upon, to the
> > >   GUI. In the meantime:
> > >
> > > * In order to disable automatic focus mode as a result of structural
> > >   navigation, you must currently do so via your orca-customizations.py.
> > >   These lines should work:
> > >
> > > * Yes, I know we also need to do this for caret navigation. But there
> > >   are some related caret navigation issues I'm still working out. Until
> > >   I work them out, I'm not going to introduce a setting which you will
> > >   tell me is broken because of the issues I've not yet worked out.
> > >   <smiles>
> > >
> > > Hope this option is of use to you. Please let me know what you think.
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > --joanie
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>
> -- 
> Joanmarie Diggs
> Accessibility Developer
> jdiggs igalia com