hi Because bugging the sonar people, of which I'm a maintainer, sort of, I build the mate isos, would only get me told to bug the orca list, and/or the terminal emulator people. Orca devs fix bugs far far faster than anyone else I've had experience with, with the exception of the mate developers, which are almost as fast. Thanks Kendell clark On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:56:35AM +0100, Mike Ray wrote:
Why not bug Sonar if speakup is not working in console rather than bug Orca for missing lines in terminal apps? imho a Linux PC without speakup is not an accessible PC. On 12/08/2014 06:23, kendell clark wrote:hi I've done a little research, and it appears most graphical terminal emulators depends on a library called libvte, in a package called vte in arch. If anyone knows enough about c or possibly c++ code to take a look, the accessibility bugs might be there. I say this, because all terminal emulators I've used, gnome-terminal, mate-terminal which I think is just a gnome 2.x gnome-terminal fork, lxterminal, and xfce4-terminal, all have the very same bugs to varying degrees. Gnome terminal is the worst though. I mud a lot, and tintin is most usable in lxterminal, but it still has the occasional issue. I wonder if orca's issues with elinks, cgdisk, and other ncurses apps is caused by this terminal bug? This has been going on for, well, since I think gnome 2.x, and has either not improved much, or has gotten slightly worse in the interveening years. I do agree, orca is fantastic, and the amount of dedication that goes into it is amazing. Thanks Kendell clark On 08/11/2014 11:47 PM, B. Henry wrote:Yes, the more I learn about orca, the more I'm impressed with both our fearless leader, and the way she responds to those who contribute in what ever way to the project. Thanks, B.H.On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:31:33PM +1000, Jason White wrote:kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:Orca should work just fine in a terminal. It has weird issues sometimes, like not announcing the first line of text at the top of the terminal and skipping entire lines of text. But they're not frequent, and they odn't happen all the time.GNOME still haven't accepted, or improved upon, the patch I submitted to correct some of this by fixing an accessibility bug in GNOME-Terminal. It's very frustrating to have a patch ignored for release after release, and disappointing that the project isn't sufficiently well managed to take care of it in a professional manner. We're really fortunate that Orca is so well maintained and that bugs are responded to so promptly. Regrettably, there are other projects (including within GNOME) where this isn't the norm. _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.htmlThe FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestionsLog bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.htmlThe FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestionsLog bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is athttp://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.htmlThe FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp-- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed Linux Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi hackers _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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