Re: [orca-list] Experimental focus versus browse mode committed to master

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
Okay, I'll describe it and I will also try to point other little things 
I have discovered so far.

Go to the http://live.gnome.org/Orca/ .
As that page finishes loading orca says "finished loading projects Orca 
- gnome wiki, home link". That's expected and is all fine. Now press tab 
key and orca will say "home link, focus mode" and really you are 
switched to focus mode. I am afraid this is a place where it should not 
change to focus mode automatically if that's possible to tweak.

Now still on this page press orca+a to go to the browse mode followed by 
a press of the letter e in order to jump to first available entry.
You will get "text entry, focus mode", at this moment please type 
something to that entry.
Now when you are done typing press orca+a to change to browse mode and 
use your arrow keys to navigate just before the text you have just typed 
then back to the text you have just typed. Navigation is working great 
nothing is interupting you and nothing happens you can notice. I expect 
it to act the same way when caret browses into an entry field that focus 
mode should be automatically turned on the same way it's currently done 
when pressing letter e to go to the next available entry. If this is 
doable. Then later on I would expect ability to turn this auto switching 
when using orca navigation features on or off from within the screen 
reader settings window. As I have said previously I am afraid it might 
not be possible to differentiate what has triggered the focus change so 
this kind of setting may not be possible at all. Can you please 
understand this bit with auto focus mode on focus changes vs auto focus 
mode for browse mode navigation please?

Furthermore I have discovered focus mode vs browse mode can also be 
switched for thunderbird compose window. Curently it is possible to type 
in while either of them is active. When switched to focus mode by 
pressing orca+a and continue typing pressing some of the navigation 
commands causes orca switch to browse mode however typing continues as 
normal. I am not sure something needs changing here but on windows NVDA 
forces focus mode for thunderbird compose window.

Another issue is a bit strange and I am not sure this is really an issue 
or this might be something with me or my system. It happens when reading 
messages in Thunderbird. Both focus mode and browse mode can be switched 
to the same way it can be done on webpages with Firefox. That's 
entirelly expected and awesome. Unfortunatelly while browse mode is 
active I seem to be unable to activate so called right click popup menu 
by pressing the applications key. While switched to focus mode context 
menu is reachable.

I apologise for such a delay while replying. I am going to see other 
messages and I'll continue giving feetback to the best of my abilities.

Thanks again for what you are doing. It's amazing


Greetings

Peter


On 08.08.2014 at 23:33 Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Peter.
>
> Regarding this:
>
> > Currently while tabbing around or pressing quick navigation keys auto
> > focus mode feature kicks in. However while reading the page by pressing
> > the arrow keys it does not kick in. If it's doable it should behave the
> > same way no mather whether we are pressing quick navigation keys or
> > arrow keys.
> Could you give me specific steps on a specific page to reproduce the
> problem above?
>
> Thanks!
> --joanie
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