Re: [orca-list] Some reading problems

[Luis González <luisg123v gmail com>]

Bug two might be related to (or be the same) a Firefox's bug I filled
which consists on: starting with Firefox 25, the Orca's cursor lags of
a lot of annoying skips, which makes Orca unusable to browse Internet:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021028

I experienced that bug when I used gnome 2, but now seems like Orca
have enhanced so much about that.

Yes, I'm using espeak, although purchasing Voxin might be a good idea :)

2014-08-05 19:45 GMT-04:30, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>:
> hi
> I can confirm  bugs 2 and three, and both are likely  firefox's fault. I
> don't know whether there are bugs filed against
> either orca or firefox, but joannie knows about them and is working to fix
> them. Bug 4, the speech-dispatcher one, is
> definitely something in either speech-dispatcher or orca's speech-dispatcher
> module. Sorry to get technical. I assume
> you're usint the espeak synthesizer, since voxin IE eloquence, doesn't have
> the capitalization issue. That's What causes
> it, when speech-dispatcher encounters either a word that has a capital
> letter in it, or an all caps word, it raises the
> pitch like it's supposed to, but forgets to lower it. Here in arch, it goes
> away after a few seconds, but it might not
> in ubuntu. Ubuntu is known for mixing components from different gnome
> versions, some from 3.12, some from 3.10 and 3.8,
> so accessibility can have weird quirks. The issue where orca gets stuck on
> words is extremely annoying and hard to track
> down exactly what causes it. I get that here in arch as well, both in the
> latest orca versions from git and the latest
> available in the arch repos, v3.12.I didn't know about the punctuation bug,
> bug that needs fixing. That's likely an orca
> issue or more likely a speech-dispatcher one.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 07:23:38PM -0430, Luis González wrote:
> > Hello list!
> >
> > I'm writing to you because I'm experiencing the following four problems:
> > 1. Each time Orca reads two ampersand symbols (& simbol) together, and
> > the punctuation level is set to all; it reads this:
> > "ampersand ampersand amp semicolon"
> > Similar to the XML sintaxis
> >
> > 2. When browsing Internet, sometimes the cursor skips to the end of
> > the page or skips a hole paragraph. I don't know exactly what triggers
> > this behavior, but I think it's related to tables and it happens
> > frequently. A good example of this is the Orca's list subscription
> > page:
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> >
> > Where the following paragraph is skiped and there is no way to read it
> > (although using the keyboard, if I click it I can read it
> > successfully):
> > " ATTENTION: Web based subscription are disabled, you can subscribe to
> > orca-list ... "
> >
> > I've also experienced this when I try to read a citation on GMail (I
> > use basic HTML view). I'll try to figure out what exactly triggers
> > this.
> >
> > 3. Also when browsing Internet, when I try to read a text word by word
> > (ctrl+right) the cursor gets stuck. For instance, if I try to read
> > this way the Orca's Wikipedia page (
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_%28assistive_technology%29 ) Which
> > says: "Orca is a free and open source, flexible, extensible screen
> > reader..."; I reach the word "source", then the cursor goes back to
> > the word "free" (I presume it gets stuck on links).
> >
> > 4. When I use Orca for a long time, the voice turns confusing, sounds
> > like it was set up an extremely hight speed; and I need to manually
> > kill speech dispatcher (I use killall speech-dispatcher with my own
> > user).
> >
> > I'm using Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 31.0 and Orca 3.10.3.
> >
> > If there is any else I can do to help this bugs to be fixed, please let me
> > know!
> >
> > --
> > Salu2
> > Luis F. González V.
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> > The manual is at
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
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Salu2
Luis F. González V.