Re: [orca-list] Need Help Getting my Speech Back

["John G. Heim" <jheim math wisc edu>]

Boy do I feel stupid.   How could it never have occured to me to treat 
speech like anything else and install backup systems? Installing 
emacspeak as a backup, of sorts, for speakup and/or orca is a great idea.

From now on, when I set up a server, when it gets to the point where 
you have to configure a regular (non root) user, I'm going to create a 
user named something like "talking". And then configure emacspeak as 
it's login shell. When I first started with linux,I used emacspeak to 
get speech. I didn't know how to compile a kernel in order to get 
speakup working and orca didn't exist yet. So I configured emacspeak as 
my default shell for my login. It worked really well. I only had to 
login and my PC started talking.

The only problem really is that mostly, in my experience, if speakup 
doesn't work, the machine doesn't work. Most likely, if speakup doesn't 
work, you're not going to be able to login and get emacspeak working. 
Maybe emacspeak can make a better backup for orca than speakup does. 
I've had a lot of trouble lately with speakup and orca on the same system.

On 06/28/13 08:52, Alex Midence wrote:
> Hi, Thomas,
>
>   You must've had quite a time of it there.   I remember when I had a
> similar problem back on a 10.04 installation.  I resolved never ever to
> find myself in a situation where I might lose my speech.  Here are the
> steps I took in case you find them helpful:
>
> Overall philosophy:   Do *not* have speech dispatcher as your one and
> only speech server.  It breaks down, everything breaks down.
>
> 1.  Install gnome-speech.  I know it's deprecated but it's nice to have
> in a pinch.
> 2.  Install Festival as a backup to e-speak and make it the default
> choice for gnome-speech.  Again, not a good alternative to espeak as a
> primary but it's great when the chips are down adn you lose e-speak for
> some reason.
> 3.  Install Emacspeak and get it working either with flite or espeak. If
> you lose speech in console or x, you need a talking shell of some kind.
> Emacs has a mode that you can use for that.
> 4.  Install Yasr as a backup console screen reader.  (not sure how
> workable that is these days.  I haven't gotten it to work since Maverick.)
>
> Anyway, you build redundancies upon redundancies.   It may seem silly
> and a bit of overkill to you until you have it happen to you and the
> prospect of reinstallation is too painful to bear.
>
> Glad to know you got her talking again.
> Best regards,
> Alex M
>
> On 06/27/2013 03:37 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please disregard this last post. I finally got Orca speaking again
> > after removing the offending package, and resetting the default
> > settings. Not sure what happened, but needless to say I am writing
> > from my Linux system using Orca now. :D
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > On 6/27/13, Thomas Ward<thomasward1978 gmail com>  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am running a system with Ubuntu 12.04.2 and Orca 3.4.2, and I think
> > > I must have done something to mess up my copy of Orca because it no
> > > longer will speak to me. All I did was install the speechd-up package,
> > > hoping to get Speakup working, restarted and now Orca is dead as a
> > > hammer. it won't speak no matter what I do and neither will Speakup.
> > > What can i do to get my speech back. I'm in a panic because that drive
> > > has several GB of stuff on it and if I have to reinstall Ubuntu from
> > > scratch not only am I going to be irate I'm going to loose a lot of
> > > stuff for absolutely no reason. So can someone tell me if there is a
> > > quick and easy fix for this problem?
> > >
> > > thanks.
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