Re: [orca-list] light weight accessible desktop for arch?

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
This is something I haven't mentioned but this is really a good point.
I think you have to decide your self how you are going to configure 
speech-dispatcher since if you have no pulseaudio installed you might 
like to really override system default config inside /etc/speech-dispatcher.
I am doing it manually.

Greetings

Peter

On 28.06.2013 10:20, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> Nope, orca installs at-spi, and all it's deps. You'll also need to 
> manually configure speech-dispatcher, forgot to mention that. iF you 
> want to i use pulseaudio, you'll need to install that, but if not just 
> configure speech-dispatcher to use alsa. just run spd-conf. follow the 
> prompts, and when you get to audio output, pick pulse or alsa by 
> typing either pulse or alsa. DOn't panic if speech-dispatcher says 
> something about, I can't find speech-dispatcher, please send a bug 
> report, it will run when orca does. I think it's trying to find a 
> running speech-dispatcher process  and kill it. Make sure you run 
> spd-conf as your user, not root or it'll create a root config.
> Thanks
> kendell clark
> On 06/28/2013 03:12 AM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
> > hi kendell,
> >
> > Many thanks i'll give that a try later today! Do i need to manually 
> > install AT-Spi? or does that get pulled in when orca is installed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mo.
> >
> > On 28/06/2013 09:04, kendell clark wrote:
> > > hi
> > > I have a script that automates all this now, but to set up xfce 
> > > accessibly you do the following commands.First you install the xfce 
> > > desktop and the panel plugins with pacman -S xfce4 xfce4-goodies. 
> > > Those are both groups of packages  so you'll get something like, 
> > > enter number of packages to install default all. Press enter both 
> > > times and install. After that, you'll need to install orca manually 
> > > if you don't already have anotehr desktop that pulled it in, just 
> > > pacman -S orca. If you want any other progs taht aren't included in 
> > > xfce, firefox, thunderbird etc install those. finally all you need 
> > > to do is create a .xinitrc file in your home directory (nano 
> > > .xinitrc). Add in the following, save and close. exec startxfce4 new 
> > > line
> > > On 06/28/2013 02:37 AM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
> > > > Hello Kendell.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks for getting back to me. I'm not asking for a step by 
> > > > step guide, but could you outline what you had to do to get XFCE 
> > > > working successfully on your arch install? there's a guide online 
> > > > but its from 2010, i'm guessing things have changed since then. 
> > > > Even a brief list of commands/files you had to edit. If you could 
> > > > let me know that would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mo.
> > > >
> > > > On 28/06/2013 02:35, kendell clark wrote:
> > > > > hi
> > > > > I myself use xfce on my arch install. It's not quite equal to 
> > > > > gnome, if only because the panel is not accessible yet, and the 
> > > > > default file manager, thunar, is accessible but has some serious 
> > > > > issues. But it's very fast, and all the settings dialogues and 
> > > > > apps work beautifully. They're also viewable in flat review, 
> > > > > something some gnome dialogues eitehr fail to do, or crash outright.
> > > > > If you need help i can either email you on list or I can help you 
> > > > > on the vinux channel.
> > > > > On 06/27/2013 03:27 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Everyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm hoping someone can advise. Out of all the various desktops, 
> > > > > > gnome varients, XFCE, LXDE etc, are there any desktops which are 
> > > > > > low resource but still accessible to the point where you can use 
> > > > > > them for every day use and where orca works with most apps and is 
> > > > > > not unstable? I would like people's opinions because i'm 
> > > > > > wondering which desktop to get going on my arch install and don't 
> > > > > > want to waste time for example on XFCE if the user experience 
> > > > > > leaves something to be desired. Any feedback greatly appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > many thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mo.
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > > The manual is at 
> > > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > >  GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge. teh gtk_modules is in al caps, just in 
> > > case orca doesn't say so. Then save and close. IF you want xfce to 
> > > start at  boot up the best way to do this is by installing slim. 
> > > Pacman -S slim. Edit /etc/slim.conf with your editor, search for 
> > > default user it's set to simone by default. Change that to your user 
> > > name. A few lines later set autologin to yes, uncomment it out, then 
> > > save and close. Lastly, type systemctl enable slim.service this will 
> > > make slim start up at boot up. IF you don't want xfce to launch at 
> > > boot just type startxfce4 at a terminal when you're ready. To get 
> > > xfce accessible once you're inside xfce, press alt+f1 to bring up 
> > > the manu, scroll down to settings>accessibility, press enter. 
> > > HIghlight the enable assistive technologies checkbox and check it, 
> > > close the window. Xfce is not accessible.  You will need to install 
> > > pcmanfm in order for the file manager to be accessible, as thunar is 
> > > not, or not completely.
> > > Phew, this is long. The last thing you'll need to do is go to 
> > > menu>settings>preferred applications. for file manager, set it to 
> > > pcmanfm, or another one if you have one. Web browser should be set 
> > > to firefox, likewise for thunderbird. That gets xfce working. It's 
> > > not complete yet, you don't have keyboard shortcuts up yet but it's 
> > > usable.
> > > If you want any  more help I'll write back. It's a lot of work but 
> > > once working you shouldn't need to re-do it. Hope I don't sound too 
> > > formal, it's 3 a.m and i'm about to drop, lol.
> > >
> > > Thanks
>
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