Re: [orca-list] working with skype

[Fernando Botelho <fernando botelho f123 org>]

You are correct of course, but there is no point in making big brother's 
life easier. If someone rather not speak directly on big brother's 
microphone, i.e. Skype and others, and prefers to not save files 
directly on big brother's hard disk, i.e. cloud services like Google 
drive and dropbox, then more power to them.

While a lot of things are technically possible, they are not all easy or 
practical given the usual level of government incompetence. So it would 
be silly to make it easy for them.

I understand why people use Skype, but if some of them can avoid it, 
more power to them.

If governments are all powerful, then why was the US government asking 
their UN diplomats to play spy and gather silly stuff like frequent 
flying miles numbers and credit card numbers from top UN officials? 
Well, the answer is that sometimes things do not work smoothly inside 
government, and anybody leaving his or her information on top of the 
desk, will make it that much easier for those who have no respect for 
privacy nor decency. This is true of course for all governments not just 
the USA.


On 06/26/2013 04:52 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> I hate to break it to you, but if you are online at all, you are being monitored whether by your government, 
> a foreign entity, or simply your ISP. Unless you are sending everything, and I do mean everything, over an 
> anonymous and encrypted connection, you absolutely will be monitored and even then, you can only control your 
> end of the process. Example: your message now was just logged, as there are people on this list with a Gmail 
> address. Nothing you could have done would have prevented this save for encryption, which would have made the 
> message unreadable to the list. If you're that worried about it, you shouldn't be on listservs, or any other 
> public forum and you might as well take yourself offline. You will be logged by at least one entity, 
> friends/relatives will not stop using Skype (it's far more convenient than any SIP provider for most users), 
> and so you can either use Skype and be part of their online lives or go offline in fear.
>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 14:21, Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes stommepoes nl> wrote:
>
> > Some of us know that every time we use Skype, we're being listened
> > to and recorded. You don't need to have anything to hide to not
> > like the NSA and Microsoft keeping records.
> >
> > -mallory
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 07:58:18PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Well put, Alex. I understand people's reasons for using free and open
> > > source software when and where practical, but there are some
> > > applications like Skype that really can't be replaced with a free open
> > > source solution. I have many friends who use Windows, don't give a
> > > hoot about open source, and they use Skype. Point being if I want to
> > > talk with them I must be using Skype for Linux, or I'm not talking to
> > > them because they aren't going to change to some alternative just
> > > because I say so. :D
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