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On 09/19/2012 05:58 PM, Speedy wrote:
Just like the F123 community, the Vinux community has a desire to
know the contents of the clipboard. I often use Storm's
customization Read Clipboard key binding in the current releases
of Vinux. From a technical view, I like the clipboard notifier
approach. It does not require finding another free key binding
that makes sense, and does not require the user to hit another
keystroke. It just happens. Which requires no extra training. I
like the word count, but I agree that the first and last words are
the most important.
So my question is: how to keep the word count and the first and last
words (as you mentioned that it is the most important)? Which
notification text format do you have in mind?
Personally, my need to hear confirmation of Control +
v, is not as important, since the new text should now be visible.
Our team will test and evaluate this extension for inclusion in
Vinux. Thank you for creating this extension.
On 9/18/2012 12:31 PM, Fernando H. F. Botelho wrote:
Hi
Piñeiro,
I am familiar with the debate that took place on the list
regarding this issue. Yet, among non-technical users we have
received ample feedback, both from students, teachers, and other
F123 users that this is an important feature for them.
They all want some kind of acknowledgement of what takes place
with CTRL C and CTRL V etc. So thank you for working on this and
as soon as we have testing feedback we will get in touch.
Best regards,
Fernando
On 09/18/2012 01:23 PM, Piñeiro wrote:
Hi,
while talking about new stuff to add/improve on GNOME,
Joanmarie
mentioned that one feature that appears now and then is
getting a
notification when the content of the clipboard changes. Some
examples of
this now and then here [1] and here [2].
The brief summary of those mails is: that feature doesn't
belong to
Orca. After all, Orca is a screen reader so it should focus on
... well,
focus on read the screen. On those mails it is mentioned that
if the
user is interested on that feature, "something" should show a
notification, and Orca would just read it.
But in the same way, I feel that this doesn't fit also as a
accessibility core feature for the desktop (on GNOME, GNOME
Shell). The
desktop should expose the proper information to be read, and
this seems
something on top. And in the same way it is something that
some users
are interested and some others not. For that "some users are
interested
and some others not", is the reason we concluded that the
proper way to
implement this is with a GNOME Shell extension [4]. For what
it worth, a
extension is just a mechanism to add custom functionality to
the
desktop. On GNOME2 we had something similar on the panel, the
applets.
So these days I was implementing a small extension called
"Clipboard
Notification". What it does right now:
* When the content of the PRIMARY clipboard changes it
sends a
accessible notification.
* The content of that notification is the following:
* If the text has less that 20 words: "Clipboard:
<all the text>"
* If the text has 20 words or more: "Clipboard: X words
copied to
the clipboard"
We (Joanmarie and me) have tested it with GNOME Shell 3.4 and
3.6 (the
next release of GNOME) and Orca expose it properly. In order
to install
it, you just need to go to the extensions page:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/451/clipboardnotification/
This feature could be improved, like configuring the number or
words,
and I'm still investigating on how to distribute a translated
version of
the extension. But at this moment, I still consider this as
"beta", and
before working more on this I want to be sure that someone is
interested
on this feature. After all, if nobody uses it, it doesn't
worth to use
my time here.
So, if anyone is interested, please test it, and provide any
feedback.
Best regards
[1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2012-June/msg00056.html
[2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2012-June/msg00112.html
[3] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions
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