Re: [orca-list] how to identify in the dash if an application is running

[Luke Yelavich <themuso ubuntu com>]

On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 02:39:57PM EST, Piñeiro wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 05:06 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:32:29PM EST, Piñeiro wrote:
> > > I think that at this moment Orca can't identify it. And as Luke said on
> > > this thread, part of the support needs to start from gnome-shell.
> > > Probably exposing "the glow" as a specific state. I have created a bug
> > > to track this error:
> > >
> > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685782
> > In Unity 2D in Ubuntu, we augmented the accessible name string to indicate the application running state, 
> > thereby not requiring any extra work on the Orca side, and I've had thoughts of doing that for Unity 3D 
> > as well. Would it not be better to do something similar in GNOME shell, thereby not requiring any extra 
> > work in Orca?
>
> Thats another option. As I mention on the bug, my initial idea of using
> a existing state probably was not so good, as I didn't find a "perfect
> fit". Just a question about that solution used at Unity2D. Does that
> mean that you create a new accessible name that is created by
> concatenate the original name and the "glow" description? How that works
> with the internationalization (as "just concatenate" don't work on every
> language)?

I'd have to look at the Unity 2D code to see how things are dealt with there in terms of translation, but if 
I were writing an atk implementation for such a thing, I'd probably make the application state a translatable 
string, i.e translate "running", and then concatinate both strings together for the accessible name. The only 
possible problem I can think of is rtl languages, or languages where such information needs to be conveyed 
differently, but given I am only an English speaker, I can't truely work this one out.

Luke