Re: [orca-list] Sonar 12.10 is out

[Thomas Ward <thomasward1978 gmail com>]

Hi Peter,

It sounds to me like the accessibility for GnomeShell is not turned
on. Did you try and reconfigure accessibility?

On 11/12/12, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Thanks for nice clear and usefull write up. It is a verry good reading
> and the features and accessibility support it describes appear to be so
> great that it made me to download this new sonar, so I can try it out in
> a VM first.
>
> I have booted sonar it played a greeting tone and orca came up tallking.
> I did know that it originally booted into the gnome classic desktop. I
> am targetting gnome shell at this time however I was curious
> newertheless and explored the classic gnome as well.
> There are several icons on the desktop and it is possible t use arrow
> keys to navigate over them.
> Hitting alt+F1 like we are used to from gnome 2 also opens a menu which
> is fully accessible. Using alt+ctrl+tab to navigate over the pannels
> works fine and using arrows to explore the menus works well too.
>
> Then I have found a system menu and inside it a logout entry in the top
> pannel. Logging out was accessible.
>
> The fact login screen appeared is also signalled by the clear sound cue.
> Hitting ctrl+s on the login screen starts orca and it is really amazing.
> In ubuntu 12.04 I was newer able to get this part working.
>
> I can then tab to the session options button. there are three options on
> this sonar live cd. Gnome, Gnome classic and gnome classic with no effects.
> I have activated the first button saying gnome and then activated ok
> button.
> I then landed inside a password field on the login screen and hit the
> enter key to log in.
>
> The login sound greeted me and after a little while orca started up
> tallking. However from here I was able to do nothing. Pressing windows+d
> to go to the desktop did not work I assume because I have got no
> feetback from orca. However focus definatelly went away from the orca
> main window where it was prior to hitting windows+d. Using arrow keys to
> navigate did not help. using shift+f10 to bring up the context menu did
> not work in this situation as well. I have tried to press alt+f1, press
> escape, press alt+ctrl+tab, alt+tab and various combination of these but
> I was unable to get a speech out this. I was even unable to return back
> to the accessible orca window. Pressing alt+F2 and blindly typing in
> firefox followed by the enter key did not reviewed speech output either.
>
> So I have decided to take another test drive, shutdown virtual machine
> and booted sonar again. I havent explored classic desktop this time. I
> have immediatelly logged out and then logged in using gnome.
> I have not used windows+d to go to the desktop I have simply tried
> alt+F1 and then typing in the search query. I was not getting spoken
> feetback this time either. I then tried tabbing around, using arrow keys
> to navigate, hitting ctrl+alt+tab but no speech again. I was able to
> retun back to the orca window after hitting esc key and then alt+tab.
> I am afraid I am doing something wrong or I am not following the
> suggested reading to the letter because really I can get no spoken
> feetback.
>
> Might the problem be that on my machine virtual machine keyboard clashes
> with running host machine? For example I am unable to perform shift+tab,
> windows key alone and maybe some other keypresses.
>
>
> Sorry for a negative posting but I am really getting afraid something is
> wrong in my setup.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter