Re: [orca-list] Very strange bugs in orca when using xfce 4.10

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

In Orca settings for Firefox, I turn off the automatic reading of a page
when it's loaded. I don't find this setting too useful since Orca
doesn't skip over the links at the top of the page, and I find it helps
Orca/Firefox performance a bit. I'm not claiming it makes Firefox and
Orca as snappy as it is in Windows with other screen readers, but like I
said, I find it helps a bit.

Chrome with ChromeVox could be another option for your web browsing. I
find it's just as snappy as it is in say Windows. You'll need sighted
assistance getting ChromeVox and the TTS installed in Chrome though.

I've never gotten the Orca flat review to work in Thunderbird. When I
forget this, I can get Orca back just by restarting it. This is the only
application I've found where flat review will silence Orca.

I don't have a problem with Orca and the log in screen. Are you talking
about a console session? You currently can't run Speakup and Orca at the
same time with the same user. You can work around this by logging into
your console as root.

On 07/11/12 14:20, Peter Vágner wrote:
> Hello,
> I am sorry for adding more questions than possible answers but I really
> could not resist and am verry curious.
> Something like this frequently happens on my machine with Ubuntu 12.04.
> For example if I am waiting for a website in firefox to load and it is
> taking a noticeable time I am left without a feetback for a little while.
> While I am curious I tend to press a key or alt+tab to the other window
> and from this moment orca is unable to respond to its keystrokes.
> It is even possible to get into this state while trying to use flat
> review in several applications most noticeably firefox and thunderbird,
> also ubuntu application center.
> I do have 64 bit machine and I am running 64 bit edition of ubuntu 12.04.
> Sometimes restarting orca helps, sometimes restarting the machine is
> needed. I am unable to reliably restart x since I am unable to get the
> login prompt with orca working at all.
> After restarting the machine apport comes up with a bunch of reports to
> send. No mather whether I allow it to do its thing or not the result is
> the same. I am occassionally sending out these automatic reports for
> some 3 or 4 months now without noticeable change.
> While i was discussing this at the ubuntu accessibility list before a
> few months the suggestion I havent tried is running 32 bit edition of
> ubuntu to compare and make sure this is not the issue.
>
> Also I am currious were you able to get xfsce configured your self or
> had you a sighted help? I feel the whole system is much more laggy than
> windows no mather which version of linux I am running. I have tried
> gnome and unity so far. Perhaps xfsce might be a little bit better in
> this regard. What do you think?
>
> excuse me once more for a lot of questions.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 7. 11. 2012 19:47, kendell clark wrote:
> > Hi all
> > Since we're all discussing bugs, let me add in a couple I've found when
> > using xfce 4.10 on arch linux. I do have the accessibility settings
> > enabled in xfce, so it does work with orca, however there are some hard
> > to reproduce bugs. For example, if I close an ap in xfce, terminal, for
> > example, orca will randomly crash, causing me to have to restart. Once
> > orca is restarted with killall -9 orca killall -9 speech-dispatcher,
> > orca --replace, orca starts up fine, but then refuses to read almost
> > anything in xfce. The applications menu, any gtk aps I open. The only
> > fix that I've seen is to either kill x, which can sometimes work, or
> > restart the machine. There are also lots and lots of speech-dispatcher
> > segfaults, though i have no idea at all if this is orca related, or a
> > speech-dispatcher bug. I'm not using pulseaudio at all, but using
> > speech-dispatcher with alsa, and if there is a phrase that is too long,
> > perhapse more than a dozen words, the espeak module will segfault out.
> > Is there a way I can add debug info to orca so if something segfaults, I
> > can provide orca's tracebacks? If so, i'll put it in my script that
> > starts orca at login, so it will work from the get go. Sorry for not
> > being more help, These bugs are not very predictable but they do happen.
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> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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Christopher (CJ)
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