Re: [orca-list] MATE

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <texou actux eu org>]

Le dimanche 29 juillet 2012 à 13:18 +1000, Jason White a écrit :
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <texou actux eu org> wrote:
>
> I'm not trying to discourage you, but since it isn't packaged for Debian I
> think you'll find installing it to be a challenge. 

MATE is packaged for Debian. Mot in the official repo, yes, but is packaged. That's why I started testing it. 
Only orca suitable isn't packaged, but building a single app isn't too problematic.

> I think MATE (essentially a
> fork of Gnome 2) is a dead end so far as development is concerned - most of
> the action is in Gnome 3, Unity, XFCE 4.10, etc.

Jhy not, but if it can maintain the GNU/Linux interest for any Debian beginner user waiting for a more usable 
Gnome3 in Debian, it worths to try. Although I'm asked to be tollerant, I do not admit some regressions in 
some update. So if there are, personally I don't update. And for ordinary users, I try to workaround 
regressions. Maybe only Debian is responsible, but it's for them I contribute: my only alternative plan today 
is building gnome3 from scratch, it's not easy too.

> I'm running Gnome 3.4 under Debian and while it has its annoyances, it's
> basically usable for the task that matters - invoking applications.

Right. But for a basic user, things stay complicated. I've some other bugs to report, they are bugs and for 
some stable release, it's not acceptable. If I defend free software as alternative to JAWS to have a good 
accessible environment easy to handle, today I mention squeeze. In the future, I'll have more hesitation to 
mention Wheezy. And I want to mention Wheezy, so I search solutions waiting for better.

Why Debian only? Because it's one of the 2 distros with an accessible and easy-to-use installer today. The 
others imply, in my experiences, chrooting or deboostrap.

Regards,



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