Re: [orca-list] is flash accessable in linux?

[Janina Sajka <janina rednote net>]

Let me clarify my meaning a bit. I would always and only ever conceive
of accessibility as a work in progress--as a vector, if you will. I
would expect we will always have exceptions, or things not done well.
But, the trend has been for more and more a11y support for quite a long
time. And the effect of this vector, over time, is that far more is
accessible today than 20 or 30 years ago.


I know this kind of perspective isn't all that helpful when there's a
class you very much want that isn't accessible to you. I do understand
the frustration of that. But, would you really want to do those classes
today with textbooks on reel to reel tapes--if you could get the books
at all? And only paper-based braille for notes? And only dictation for
preparing your handins? That's where we were 30 years ago.

Janina

Alex Midence writes:
> Oh, you can do that sort of thing for Academia and for government
> institutions.  Where it will persist as inaccessible as ever and
> with near perfect impunity is in the corporate world where the
> audience is internal and not the general public.  And, actually, not
> even academia is completely dedicated to accessible flash now that I
> think of it.  I had to drop a physics class last year because of
> inaccessible virtual labs. These labs were, you guessed it, in
> flash.
>
> Alex M
>
>
> On 7/12/2012 3:55 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > They may have done it that way for years, but they've not succeeded at
> > making the educational opportunity accessible at the same time. To the
> > extent that equal access in education continues to be strengthened as a
> > legal mandate, they will be pushed to abandon the inaccessible for the
> > available accessible option. Courts and stiff fines can be so very
> > persuasive.
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > Alex Midence writes:
> > > Flash is still very much alive in my industry.  E-learning content creators
> > > love it for some obscure reason and just about every authoring package out
> > > there for stuff like Scorm/AICC and Ims Common Cartridge which are packaging
> > > conventions for courseware are just chalk full of flash content.  Tests,
> > > simulations, even simple informative content is frequently rendered in
> > > flash.  It's dying will take longer than you may think in some circles.  One
> > > of the most common ways to make a course is to create a powerpoint
> > > presentation and then export it to flash along with assessment content
> > > interwoven into it.  It's been done this way for years.
> > >
> > > Alex M
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
> > > Behalf Of Krishnakant Mane
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:25 PM
> > > To: Kyle
> > > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] is flash accessable in linux?
> > >
> > > Flash also adds a lot of security risks.
> > > And html5 and ogg together is such a nice combo that any browser can run it.
> > > Happy hacking.
> > > Krishnakant.
> > >
> > > On 07/12/2012 10:14 PM, Kyle wrote:
> > > > Flash is pretty much dead. I think even Adobe realizes this. This is why
> > > they are killing it on mobile platforms now. They will likely kill it
> > > completely sooner rather than later. Well, I never liked Flash anyway, and
> > > HTML5, Ogg Vorbis and WebM have combined to make Flash completely
> > > unnecessary for my web design needs. Free and open formats FTW!
> > > > ~Kyle
> > >
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