Re: [orca-list] is there a need for anti virus and or anti spyware programs in ubuntu linux?

[Krishnakant Mane <krmane gmail com>]

Yet, there is a difference, and a fundamental one at that.
Mac OS, Android, Linux and obviously Unix follow the POSEX standard.
Add to it the concept of chmod and root accounts, even the sudo concept.
Virus is a shear concept introduced by Windows and the likes.
I don't know how successful people hvae been with mac viruses, but even 
after all the anti virus and stuff we can't ensure security of windows.
Firstly FOSS implies transparency and source code being open for both 
good and bad people.
For M$ it is generally the saitans who get their way around and we are 
helpless.
Back-door entries and viruses are very easy in windows because there is 
no one to look at the source code and no one except M$ to change it.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On 07/11/2012 07:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I agree that Linux is more secure than Windows, but a lot of what's
> being said here about how security is up to you also applies to Windows.
> If you keep your Windows system up to date, keep some antivirus SW
> running, use good passwords and some common sense, your Windows
> experience will also be a lot more secure.
>
> On 11/07/12 07:55, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > +1 Thomas,
> > I would just say that with Linux security is in your hands and if you
> > follow what Thomas says, there is nothing to worry about.
> > With Windows (although this is off topic) nothing is in your hand.
> > I therefore say windows stands for "Where I Never Do Operations With
> > Safety ".
> > The other reason for no virus on Linux is just because unless your root
> > password is known, no external program can damage your system come what
> > may.
> > So keep the root password strong and set firewall.
> > With Windows you can't even guaranty after taking all security measures.
> > Happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
> >
> > On 07/11/2012 06:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > Hi trahern,
> > >
> > > Generally speaking Linux operating systems do not require antivirus
> > > software or antispyware software because the way the operating system
> > > is designed. That isn't to say that Linux isn't  open to those kinds
> > > of attacks, but that they are much less likely on Linux than an OS
> > > like Windows. In general as long as you keep your Linux system up to
> > > date with critical security patches, don't regularly use the root
> > > account, configure your firewall to block unwanted incoming and
> > > outgoing traffic, you use a strong password, you should be good to go.
> > >
> > > The thing about Linux is the security is only as good as the user who
> > > manages the system. If you, for example, give your root account a very
> > > week password then don't be surprised if someone comes along and
> > > cracks it with a brute force attack. In a case like that the week
> > > security wouldn't be linux's fault but yours. Same could be said for
> > > viruses or spyware. As long as you install software from trusted
> > > sources such as the distribution's own  repository you are extremely
> > > unlikely to get either a virus, worm, or spyware. If you downloaded
> > > and install software from somewhere else then you might run the risk
> > > of getting software that has some malware in it. So security here is
> > > what you make it.
> > >
> > > That said, I've been using Linux operating systems for about 14 years,
> > > and have never had a virus or any spyware installed on it. I'd trust
> > > Linux far more than I would Microsoft Windows, and the key to that
> > > success is simply being a smart Linux user and following good security
> > > practices like using a strong password, configuring a firewall,
> > > obtaining software from trusted software repositories, and installing
> > > security patches as soon as they become available.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/11/12, trahern culver <sound warrior20 gmail com> wrote:
> > > > hey all my question to you is this is there any need for anti spyware
> > > > and or
> > > > anti virus programs in ubuntu linux? and if there is any good accessible
> > > > recommendations?
> > > >
> > > > your help with these questions would be most welcome kind regards
> > > > trahern.
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