Re: [orca-list] Pdf accessibility in Linux was Re: Trying Quantal Quetsal Alpha 3

[Chris <chrys87 web de>]

Ah :) thanks for the clarification.
Am Freitag, den 03.08.2012, 06:52 +0100 schrieb Juanjo MarÃn:
> Hi,
>
> All the accessibility patches never landed into master Evince
> because the developer, Daniel GarcÃa, didn't have the time to 
>
> correct some issues for its inclusion in master. He also made 
>
> some patches in poppler, the pdf redering engine that Evince 
>
> uses, and fortunately this was done.
>
>
> As I tried to explain before (sorry for the Interleaved-Posting ),
>
> the good news is he's starting again this work. More work in 
>
> needed to adapt it to the current version of Evince, mainly to adapt
> the parches to the current accesibility framework.  He's doing
> in his free time, so he can't provide any delivery date. I hope he can 
>
> accomplish it ASAP :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>     -- Juanjo Marin
>
>
> PS: the kind of workaround you mention should always work to some
> extend, convert the PDF to plain text or html (for example with command
> from poppler-utils) and read the converted document. 
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Mensaje original -----
> > De: Chris <chrys87 web de>
> > Para: orca-list gnome org
> > CC: 
> > Enviado: Viernes 3 de agosto de 2012 4:44
> > Asunto: Re: [orca-list] Pdf accessibility in Linux was Re: Trying Quantal Quetsal Alpha 3
> >
> > Hi
> > I heard that  accessibility in evince works for sometime in the past.
> > See here:
> > https://live.gnome.org/Evince/a11y
> > It seems that a bug killed the accessibility.
> > I looked at the code, because i wanna help, but i m not deep enougth in
> > the atspi or evince stuff.
> > If somebody have a better knowledge of it and can explain me the hole
> > stuff, maybe we can fix it togehter. (it seems the documentations are
> > not realy up to date or maybe i m just to stupit ^^).
> >
> > Oter Informational Links:
> > http://projects.gnome.org/outreach/a11y/tasks/evince/
> > The related open bugs for this stuff:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677348
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638905
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639403
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639932
> >
> > I think its better to fix this bugs before somebody write a new talking
> > pdf viewer ;).
> >
> > there is also an workarround to make the contant of the pdf easyly
> > accessible to users via copy paste ^^ but i never test the code and i
> > dont know if it still works.
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2007-January/msg00005.html
> > Greetings chrys
> >
> >
> > Am Freitag, den 03.08.2012, 11:45 +1000 schrieb Jason White:
> > >  Thomas Ward <thomasward1978 gmail com> wrote:
> > >  > It sounds to me like what we need here is for someone to write a
> > >  > talking pdf viewer/reader. I really don't think creating such an
> > >  > application would be all that difficult. After all, as has been
> > >  > discussed there is an open pdf document standard used by a number of
> > >  > open source applications. All we really need to do is create an
> > >  > accessible graphical document reader using something like the GTK+ 3
> > >  > toolkit, and then maybe wrap speech-dispatcher for speech output. 
> > >
> > >  The challenge would be to implement tagged PDF, which is the part of the
> > >  specification of most relevance to accessibility. As far as I know, there 
> > are
> > >  no free software implementations of this, except for LibreOffice, which can
> > >  write it but can't read it. I think ConTeXt can also write it.
> > >
> > >  The solution would be to take the best existing PDF library and add support
> > >  for tagged PDF.
> > >
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